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[Closed] 100NL TwoPair Vs Fish, R vbet or chback?

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Party Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1330278
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CO: $106.65
BTN: $31.83
SB: $112.16
BB: $57.75
UTG: $112.75
Hero (MP): $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with Q :club: J :diamond:
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 8 :diamond: J :heart: A :club: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.00, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14.50) Q :heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10.00, BB calls $10

River: ($34.50) 9 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $11.00, BB raises to $29, Hero folds

60/15 guy, looks rly passive
Should I vbet R? Pretty much everything that will call me has a better two pair now and I kinda doubt he would call m e jsu t w weak AX ... but myabe if I bet small? or Should I jsut chback? or bet more T:12 and shove R on better R cards?


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_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Party Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1330288
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BTN: $105.38
SB: $59.98
BB: $107.51
UTG: $136.77
MP: $48.11
Hero (CO): $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with A :heart: A :club:
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4, BTN calls $4, 2 folds, UTG calls $3

Flop: ($13.50) 6 :diamond: 9 :spade: K :heart: (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $9.00, BTN folds, UTG calls $9

Turn: ($31.50) 5 :diamond: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $23.00, UTG calls $23

River: ($77.50) 8 :spade: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $64.00, UTG calls $64

same opponent
I should prob. bet 1-2bb more on the Flop


Shevtshenko
Joined: 06.12.2009

chk R in first almost vs. anyone. In 2nd I'm prly chking R again but I'm also betting way bigger both F & T. The 2nd one is closer though, given he's calling KT+, so it depends a bit what he's raising preflop and what limping. If he's the type to open with KTo from utg, you should always chk R.


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Party Poker $100 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1331183
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SB: $100.00
BB: $100.00
UTG: $100.00
Hero (MP): $106.85
CO: $95.24
BTN: $103.46

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 7 :spade: 8 :spade:
1 fold, Hero raises to $3, 3 folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 5 :heart: 6 :spade: 4 :spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14.50) 2 :spade: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB calls $10

River: ($34.50) 4 :heart: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Another thin vbet Q on R
This one is vs unknonw TAG-nittish reg who doenst look like he lveos showdowns

on T when he calls I put him on str8, overpairs or sets
I dont think he will call R w overpairs
I dont think he will call R w str8
There arent worse flushes (+even if, its quite likly that worst flush that he can have would be Jhi flush if he owuld play it this way) -
-> chbeh, no value?

And if I would have str8flush? overbetshove?


Anssi
Joined: 03.07.2008

I'd say there are more hands that will give you value than hands that beat you though.


Shevtshenko
Joined: 06.12.2009

Originally posted by Anssi
I'd say there are more hands that will give you value than hands that beat you though.

+1

you're a nit. Regardless of villain I'm betting on R, sizing is only thing that changes.


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Originally posted by Shevtshenko

Originally posted by Anssi
I'd say there are more hands that will give you value than hands that beat you though.

+1

you're a nit. Regardless of villain I'm betting on R, sizing is only thing that changes.

on the last hand I tend to disagree
PF range: broadyways, pocketpairs
F callign range, pocketpairs + possibly FD and sets
T: str8 , maaaybe higher overpairs but he looks like a guy who folds a lot to scare cards and sets
R: str8 is no longer calling for sure
if he somehow got flush he has a better one
if he had set he has FH now


Shevtshenko
Joined: 06.12.2009

He needs to be playing like 9/8 and af 0,05 with wts 5 over 1k+ hands, otherwise I'm valuebetting. I can't check behind with a flush on R in a sh game. I could be wrong, though.


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Originally posted by Shevtshenko
He needs to be playing like 9/8 and af 0,05 with wts 5 over 1k+ hands, otherwise I'm valuebetting. I can't check behind with a flush on R in a sh game. I could be wrong, though.

Just tell me the hand that calls me when I bet, thats why I posted it


Shevtshenko
Joined: 06.12.2009

76 ... JJ

and everything in btw. But mby that's just me.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Agree with Shevtshenko, I'm betting in all three hands, it's just the sizing that changes.
Generally when somebody c/calls twice their range is very weak and for example in hand 1 there aren't that many 2pairs in his range because he would checkraise a lot of them by the turn.

In the AA hand I like the shove on the river, and also I think the 9bb bet on the flop is ok because obv we can still get AI vs TP and after all there aren't many draws - we're mostly looking to get some thin value vs gutshots and medium strength made hands.

In the third hand again it might feel like there's not much you beat, but again he would checkraise 2pairs, sets and usually also flushes (except maybe nutflushes) by the turn, so there's not all that much you have to be afraid of.
I agree that you have to bet very small to get a call from overpairs though.
I'd even make it as small as $6-$7.


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