[Closed] fish ratio in SH vs FR

Originally posted by JHTAN

Originally posted by patszerdonk
There are charts on article section (2 charts if i remember it correctly, one for beginner one for advanced). You can find some charts at Equlab either

But, I stand to premise that chart is useless for SH, especially blind war/steal

hi,

I stop playing poker about 2 months because of the FTP shotdown.
I wish to learn 6max and play RUSH when the FTP reopen.
the charts only show open raising hands but not 3bet.
do you play 6max? if yes, what is your 3beting range VS unknown?

thanks.

You can see it at equilab ---> predefined hand range ----> "poker evolution"
and fix it a bit.

about my own 3bet range resteal:

versus unknow villain I play very tight and from blinds. And me at the blind(s) vs attemp to steal:
3bet QQ+, AK+ for value,
3bet 22-66, A2s-A5s, K2s-K5s for bluff.
Call AT+, KQ, 77-JJ

After a while and I have data about villain then I 3bet much wider if he is normal regular TAG. My calling range basically not change much because dont like play OOP.

I play NL5 SH and below.

Originally posted by patszerdonk

Originally posted by JHTAN

Originally posted by patszerdonk
There are charts on article section (2 charts if i remember it correctly, one for beginner one for advanced). You can find some charts at Equlab either

But, I stand to premise that chart is useless for SH, especially blind war/steal

hi,

I stop playing poker about 2 months because of the FTP shotdown.
I wish to learn 6max and play RUSH when the FTP reopen.
the charts only show open raising hands but not 3bet.
do you play 6max? if yes, what is your 3beting range VS unknown?

thanks.

You can see it at equilab ---> predefined hand range ----> "poker evolution"
and fix it a bit.

about my own 3bet range resteal:

versus unknow villain I play very tight and from blinds. And me at the blind(s) vs attemp to steal:
3bet QQ+, AK+ for value,
3bet 22-66, A2s-A5s, K2s-K5s for bluff.
Call AT+, KQ, 77-JJ

After a while and I have data about villain then I 3bet much wider if he is normal regular TAG. My calling range basically not change much because dont like play OOP.

I play NL5 SH and below.

Do you call 3bet IP? If yes, what is your calling range?

That's depend on villain 3bet range

Originally posted by patszerdonk
That's depend on villain 3bet range

Against Unknown?

thanks.

Originally posted by Saruniks

Originally posted by JHTAN

Originally posted by Gerovit

Originally posted by Phenomenomzor
Definitely.

+1

Hi Gerovit,

do agree that 6max has more fishes?
If yes, what is the reason?

I play on 6max

That's a 10 point Saroniks :f_biggrin:, Another reason is that I do it too

Hiya!
I played a lot of FR, 500k or more I guess, to get a feel for the game. When I switched to SH I took a lot of beating. Didnt play any worse than in FR I think. Well, when I finally tilted (and this can happen fast) due to bad runs, I did ofc. Have heard others with the same experience. Can play my micro limits successfully now. The first 5 years are the hardest :f_biggrin:. And I play FL and I guess in NL there will much worse swings and tilting tendencies. I say you go with FR for some months at least. Think your overall skill will develop best that way. Gonna give you some examples of how it usually is for me:

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$16,65:///////;BB$50:203/29/24/1,1/48/30/56/59;MP1$17,55:253/26/14/0,7/56/31/0/43;MP2$41,85:74/24/9/1,3/37/40/100/43;MP3$56,25:107/35/17/1,0/61/29/25/52;CO$13,5:882/40/13/1,7/41/48/20/40;BU$43,65:29/21/10/14,0/60/50/100/67;[/tg]
0,5/1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.102 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6♥, 6♠
3 folds, CO raises, BU folds, Hero 3-bets, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: (7,00 SB) Q♦, T♥, 5♠ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (4,50 BB) 3♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

River: (8,50 BB) 8♣ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10,50 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
CO shows ett par i åttor (Ah 8d)
Hero shows (6h 6s)

CO wins with ett par i åttor (Ah 8d)

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$4,75:///////;BB$53:886/27/13/1,2/42/22/46/55;CO$12,1:239/31/28/3,8/42/46/20/62;BU$16,2:1036/29/22/1,5/44/46/47/53;[/tg]
0,25/0,5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.102 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q♥, Q♣
CO raises, BU folds, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, CO caps, Hero calls, BB calls.

Flop: (12,00 SB) 6♦, 5♥, 3♥ (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, CO calls.

Turn: (7,50 BB) 7♣ (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, CO calls.

River: (10,50 BB) A♦ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 12,50 BB

Results follow (highlight to see):
CO shows ett par i ess (Ac Kd)
Hero shows (Qh Qc)

CO wins with ett par i ess (Ac Kd)

Nevermind the play, my point is that it's not unusal to lose on the river. Some can even draw to a runner-runner gutshot. Expect these things. TC and avoid counting with runner-runner trips