[Closed] plo500 turn spot top set

You have to call the turn after you bet it (not quite sure why you're betting this turn card).

You have $300 left and the pot will be $1300. You have 10 outs from the deck, so it's a small mistake to call here if you are behind. $300/$1300 = 23% equity required. 10 cards from 44 unknown=22.7%.

So basically if your opponent has a flush you have correct odds to call after you bet the turn, so folding would be super bad here, more so that he could be bluffing with a naked A (he could have a hand like A :diamond:Q :club:T :club:9

I'm not a fan of your turn bet, like I already stated, but once you bet the turn, you absolutely must call the raise. If you were deeper, I would say fold to the raise, but in this particular case, you have correct odds to call.

This is a spot where you need to think before you bet the turn. Would have saved you the puke

By betting you actually make yourself those odds to call if villain shoves. By betting a little more, you give better odds for the call. But that's not a good play.

If you really, really have to bet the turn, then bet bigger to make the decision easier if the opponent shoves. Now you bet small, and create that tough spot yourself where it's so close to call or fold.

But as Ribbo said, not really sure why you bet on the turn. What were your thoughts?

Hi all,

Bet smaller on the turn and get it in anyway if he shoves. He can be semibluffing worse sets, naked ace high diamonds. By betting so big you make him play pretty straightforward IMO which I dislike.

Also do you ever check/call the flop in this sort of situation? You should some of the time to increase the equity with which you get your money in.

If you check-call on flop, what is the plan for turn if one of those draws hit (about 50% of turns)? On blanks it's easy to check-raise, but I am curious about the line when draw hits.

i bet the turn because i thought he would get money in with A high FD + something on flop... he was quite agro. so i was waiting call(lower flush, usually free showdown if i dont hit river,lower set) or fold on turn so his turn push surprised me.
i hoped he can do it with naked ace some times, plus i had close odds = call ...
btw i dont ever c/c here on flop, either bet flop, c/r turn or c/r flop, bet turn.

ribbo, so what would be your line here on the turn/river ?

Originally posted by LooserSR

ribbo, so what would be your line here on the turn/river ?

The problem for you is that a check raise on the flop does not fit the betting line of someone with a nut flush draw. So I would play my hand in a way that befits a person who checkraises this flop, and that would be to check the turn and take it from there.

There will be times when I do have a nut flush draw (like if my hand is A :diamond:QT :diamond:x , i'm check raising the hell out of that flop (and also checking the turn if I hit) but because my hand isn't repping the flush, when I don't have it, I cant really bet it since it will get no respect from any hand that beats me.

Originally posted by Ribbo
You have to call the turn after you bet it (not quite sure why you're betting this turn card).

You have $300 left and the pot will be $1300. You have 10 outs from the deck, so it's a small mistake to call here if you are behind. $300/$1300 = 23% equity required. 10 cards from 44 unknown=22.7%.

So basically if your opponent has a flush you have correct odds to call after you bet the turn, so folding would be super bad here, more so that he could be bluffing with a naked A (he could have a hand like A :diamond:Q :club:T :club:9

I'm not a fan of your turn bet, like I already stated, but once you bet the turn, you absolutely must call the raise. If you were deeper, I would say fold to the raise, but in this particular case, you have correct odds to call.

Your math is a little off, the pot will only be $1,109 and he's calling $302 to win that so he needs 27.23% equity to call. He prolly has that but it's pretty close.

Originally posted by GodlikeRoy

Your math is a little off, the pot will only be $1,109 and he's calling $302 to win that so he needs 27.23% equity to call. He prolly has that but it's pretty close.

The final pot in this hand was $1312, when we call all in we include the money we put into the pot when working out the pot odds required for the call. So it's $302 / $1312 = 0.23 = 23% equity required to make the call break even at worst.

Originally posted by Ribbo

Originally posted by GodlikeRoy

Your math is a little off, the pot will only be $1,109 and he's calling $302 to win that so he needs 27.23% equity to call. He prolly has that but it's pretty close.

The final pot in this hand was $1312, when we call all in we include the money we put into the pot when working out the pot odds required for the call. So it's $302 / $1312 = 0.23 = 23% equity required to make the call break even at worst.

CO wins $1,309 (net +$554)

PLO hero lost $552

Assuming this calculates the way Party Poker does(Haven't checked on Ongame) if you bet $500 and the caller has $200, it'll count Pot+700 and not return uncalled bet until after everything is done and counts the pot as the full amount.

Good to know. How silly I was to look at the final pot size and assume it meant the final size of the pot.

I mean the pot was HU since preflop and hero only has $5xx in his stack, so it's pretty difficult to create a $1.3k pot with those restrictions

Yes I understood that Roy, I read fruktpuff's post and was merely commenting on how I looked at the final pot size in the spoiler and took it to mean the size of the final pot.