++I like big butts++

Originally posted by clandestineAl

Originally posted by IngridN
I like curvy girls they are much more beautiful and have much more to offer

Curvy girls all the way. Except for my current love who is skinny in a sexy curvy way.

Curvy = "Built for comfort, not speed"

The Nash equilibrium for dating says that if everyone goes for the sexpots, nobody gets a girl. -- see the movie, "A Beautiful Mind" which is about John Nash, of Nash equilibrium fame.

If you meet a girl of ANY shape who is kind, caring, fun to be with, can cook, and is not self-conscious about appearance, what guy in his right mind would care about appearance?

In fact, only the shallow among us care AT ALL for appearance.

Just don't tell a girl, "I don't care about appearance in a girl".
She will hear, "I think you're ugly, but I don't care". Or worse.

Cheers,

zomg, you spoke from my mind

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

If you meet a girl of ANY shape who is kind, caring, fun to be with, can cook, and is not self-conscious about appearance, what guy in his right mind would care about appearance?

In fact, only the shallow among us care AT ALL for appearance.

yes, but not really. depends on what you mean by appearence. you can stray very far from an imagined ideal, but you still have to find that person attractive in some way.

Interesting approaches you have.

But hey, aren't there a bunch of 'gnome' girls all over the place? Saying not caring for looks at all is not really acceptable for me. Don't misunderstand me, by that I don't mean just physical looks, furtherworse not caring for your looks, not investing yourself to be attractive in any way. If you see a girl/woman on a street that looks just usual in a perfect sence of word, would you think she has something interesting to offer you? Would you put your time in investigating that, if you know there are thousands of beautifull ones out there? Depends of what kind of person you are, but I want to differ from other guys who don't even look where they shoot. Maybe I'm wrong, and 'forever alone' because I'm picky, but hell I know I'm funny, romantic and charming and have alot more to offer than guys I get to see every day.

I do look for handsome/intelligent pack kind of chick, she could be less of one or both, there might be also some other kind of attribute that can compensate the others.

P.S. Ingrid if you can please change the name of thread, it can be anything that gets on your mind and is related to the discussion or you think is appropriate. I can't think of anything suitable atm.

Two things only from me.

1. Why can't I be shallow and have both? ♠_cool:

2. My other 1/4 is very short, fat and has a bit of learning difficulties, but I wouldn't swap her for some size 0 supermodel I cut myself on every time I try to have a cuddle!
I used the last one's ribs as a cheese grater. Jeeze get a burger girl!

ok guys, I've changed it to ... ^^ see it for yourself ♦

(it was my bf suggestion)

Now EVERYBODY dance!!

Skinny girls > curvy girls AINEC for me

Originally posted by IngridN
ok guys, I've changed it to ... ^^ see it for yourself ♦

Ingrid, I know you love animals, but I think liking BUG butts is taking a bit too far. Just sayin'

And I couldn't agree more with NightFrostaSS. I know some people think that if you say skinny is sexy you're encouraging anorexia, but then again if you say curvy is sexy, aren't you encouraging obesity?

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
The Nash equilibrium for dating says that if everyone goes for the sexpots, nobody gets a girl. -- see the movie, "A Beautiful Mind" which is about John Nash, of Nash equilibrium fame.

If you meet a girl of ANY shape who is kind, caring, fun to be with, can cook, and is not self-conscious about appearance, what guy in his right mind would care about appearance?

In fact, only the shallow among us care AT ALL for appearance.

Cheers,

I have to disagree. It's in human nature to search for physically attractive females. On the other hand women are those who care much less about looks and more about men's character and behavior.

From what you said, it sounds like you're just not good enough for those that you really find attractive. And then, you convinced yourself that looks don't matter so you can accept whatever is thrown towards you (as well other man are bad and shallow). I mean, no one wants to end up alone, right?

What you could do instead, is try to improve, to become the guy who attracts the attractive women. That's certainly not a fat-smelly guy with a thick neck beard who dwells in his basement whole day.
I just love the people who say "but I'm born this way". No, you're not! You're born to be whatever you want. You're just shaped this way by your environment, and you can reshape yourself as you like, you just have to know how to do it.
I mean you have one life and you should live it fully, unlike 99% of the people.
(as well I blame religion on this, but I won't get into that right now)

I, myself, went from incredibly shy to confident; fat-ish to fit with a lot of muscle (into bodybuilding); learnt to cook; to play an instrument...and a lot of other stuff...all in the past few years. I'm doing this for myself and in return, having a fulfilled, quality life is what attracts beautiful women.
(note: I threw my TV away which gave me a lot of time to have a quality life. Yes, I use computer but only for poker and a few forums...haven't played a game since Diablo 2 (10 years). Guess I'll be playing Diablo 3 tho )

I hope this poker thing works out so I wont have to spend 8-10 hours a day sitting at work, doing something that I don't really want to do.

On the subject of skinny vs "curvy":
I personally prefer skinny girls. Not just because of their looks, but because it tells me something about her character: that she cares about herself, that shes trying to improve, that shes not a lazy bum who can't be bothered to break some sweat to correct things that are wrong with her...
If a girl have no respect towards herself I won't have any respect for her either.

PS: maybe I strayed from the subject a bit, but I hope that was helpful and that I didn't offend anyone.

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Huge thumbs up for my fellow country man from above. I couldn't agree more with you just about everything you said.

"Man falls in love with a man by looking, woman in man by listening."

Woman beauty was I subject of poentry and art from ages 'till now. It's simple as that, there's nothing higher than beauty on the woman admiration skale. She might be ultra intelligent, fun to be with, successful and a good cook. But there is difference between
1) She's maybe not so hot, but at least she's smart and cooks nice (Friend: that's..khm..nice)
2) She's not that of a cook, but MAN SHE'S HOT! (Friend: You lucky bastard!)

I'll ask you guys this - how many times you've seen some non-muscled, short and styleless guy walking around with a gorgeous beauty? It's obvious, there's much behind the scene. I'll mention the movie 'Hitch', just to explain that seduction isn't actually a matter of beauty, it's more of a skill and knowledge that certinly can be mastered. Hey, in my not so famous country I've heard there are even coaches for that. Self-improvement is mandatory if you want to make a leap out of a mediocre circle.

Next thing, general physical 'uglyness' (harsh word) is fading as I can see. Today you can fix your smile, you can make your hair be beautiful, you can lose weight with fancy diets etc. Nope, I'm not looking for extreme godess (for now), I just want to have fun and have somebody. But if it takes for sometime to be alone so you can find a diamond in a dirt, I'd rather do that than walk with anyone.

P.S. Thanks Ingrid I love it, hope it will get more people here for the sake of discussion.
This is for you.

Originally posted by oblitron

Originally posted by IngridN
ok guys, I've changed it to ... ^^ see it for yourself ♦

Ingrid, I know you love animals, but I think liking BUG butts is taking a bit too far. Just sayin'

And I couldn't agree more with NightFrostaSS. I know some people think that if you say skinny is sexy you're encouraging anorexia, but then again if you say curvy is sexy, aren't you encouraging obesity?

''I like bug butts, but I cant stand flys!''

We are all attracted to confidence more than looks. Before I found poker I studied pick up for 3+ years. The only really skinny girl I have ever been attracted to was more attractive because of her confidence than because of how she looked. It's sad now that these days a proper female shape isn't as in style as it should be. This causes all the girls out there with great hour glass figures to not be as confident about their shape as they should be.

Anyone can be with anyone they want to be with if they actually think they can. If you don't think you are worthy of being with someone then there is no way they are going to be attracted to you. If you approach everyone thinking I wonder if they are worthy of being with me then great things will happen

Originally posted by NenadNacevic

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
The Nash equilibrium for dating says that if everyone goes for the sexpots, nobody gets a girl. -- see the movie, "A Beautiful Mind" which is about John Nash, of Nash equilibrium fame.

If you meet a girl of ANY shape who is kind, caring, fun to be with, can cook, and is not self-conscious about appearance, what guy in his right mind would care about appearance?

In fact, only the shallow among us care AT ALL for appearance.

Cheers,

I have to disagree. It's in human nature to search for physically attractive females. On the other hand women are those who care much less about looks and more about men's character and behavior.

From what you said, it sounds like you're just not good enough for those that you really find attractive. And then, you convinced yourself that looks don't matter so you can accept whatever is thrown towards you (as well other man are bad and shallow). I mean, no one wants to end up alone, right?

Well, when I was "in the market", I went out with lots of different body shapes and styles, and I soon learned that the more attractive a girl thought she was, the less likely she was to be worth dating. In my mid-20's a girl I had been "just friends" with for 8 years or so moved into town. We've now been married 31 years.

Physical attributes may provide the initial attraction, but it doesn't last long. All the attitude stuff lasts forever.

You make an interesting point, though. If a person has a low regard for themselves, it will affect who they ask out. In my case both of us didn't think of ourselves as "good looking" (we were both impossibly skinny), but we each found the other gorgeous/handsome. Go figure.

Great thread.
--VS

zomg!!

I meant to say "big butts" ♦ ♦

lmao!! ok changed it now

Yep great post Vorpal

The girls who think so highly of themselves are normaly really boring and one dimensional and spend too much time on how they look to enjoy life and have a good time.

Dont get me wrong i like girls who look good it is ofc the first thing we notice in somebody and gives us the initial attraction. But a girl who "knows" she is prettier than everyone else in the room and makes people feel inferior because of it is ugly to me i like hot girls who just dont have to try at all

Originally posted by NenadNacevic

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
The Nash equilibrium for dating says that if everyone goes for the sexpots, nobody gets a girl. -- see the movie, "A Beautiful Mind" which is about John Nash, of Nash equilibrium fame.

If you meet a girl of ANY shape who is kind, caring, fun to be with, can cook, and is not self-conscious about appearance, what guy in his right mind would care about appearance?

In fact, only the shallow among us care AT ALL for appearance.

Cheers,

I have to disagree. It's in human nature to search for physically attractive females. On the other hand women are those who care much less about looks and more about men's character and behavior.

From what you said, it sounds like you're just not good enough for those that you really find attractive. And then, you convinced yourself that looks don't matter so you can accept whatever is thrown towards you (as well other man are bad and shallow). I mean, no one wants to end up alone, right?

What you could do instead, is try to improve, to become the guy who attracts the attractive women. That's certainly not a fat-smelly guy with a thick neck beard who dwells in his basement whole day.
I just love the people who say "but I'm born this way". No, you're not! You're born to be whatever you want. You're just shaped this way by your environment, and you can reshape yourself as you like, you just have to know how to do it.
I mean you have one life and you should live it fully, unlike 99% of the people.
(as well I blame religion on this, but I won't get into that right now)

I, myself, went from incredibly shy to confident; fat-ish to fit with a lot of muscle (into bodybuilding); learnt to cook; to play an instrument...and a lot of other stuff...all in the past few years. I'm doing this for myself and in return, having a fulfilled, quality life is what attracts beautiful women.
(note: I threw my TV away which gave me a lot of time to have a quality life. Yes, I use computer but only for poker and a few forums...haven't played a game since Diablo 2 (10 years). Guess I'll be playing Diablo 3 tho )

I hope this poker thing works out so I wont have to spend 8-10 hours a day sitting at work, doing something that I don't really want to do.

On the subject of skinny vs "curvy":
I personally prefer skinny girls. Not just because of their looks, but because it tells me something about her character: that she cares about herself, that shes trying to improve, that shes not a lazy bum who can't be bothered to break some sweat to correct things that are wrong with her...
If a girl have no respect towards herself I won't have any respect for her either.

PS: maybe I strayed from the subject a bit, but I hope that was helpful and that I didn't offend anyone.

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you should listen to this guy, I study psychology so i can say that he's on the right line. Girls look for men who are charming, have a good social status, high social intelligence(knows how to keep a good conversation, how to be funny and make a conversation as pleasant as possible), give her attention and can provide confidence and safety, they look for this over beauty(not saying that beauty is not important) but in general a girl would prefer a good looking guy(not extremely handsome) who has a good job, knows how to dress properly, is intelligent and funny over an extremely handsome guy who doesn't have a job, is boring and dumb.But beauty is more a question of knowing how to care of yourself(have a well-balanced diet, practice exercise frequently) this is something that anyone can achieve and give you some extra points with the girls.

I'm sorry guys, but "curvy" does NOT mean fat or overweight, you know this right?

Last posters been comparing "skinny" vs "curvy" in a way which makes me think that your "curvy" girl is eating unhealthy/don't exercise/ or care for her look.

Curvy means, she is not bone and skin and has a lovely bum (at most).

Well, those curves mostly comes from fat which is actually fine because a woman is supposed to have a higher % of body fat. And skinny girls not necessarily exercise and eat healthy either, it's more down to genes I guess. I prob prefer skinny girls because somewhere in my subconscious mind I think it's genetically the right type for me to mate with, dunno, just guessing. And I'm kinda drunk so I speak shit.

Originally posted by IngridN
I'm sorry guys, but "curvy" does NOT mean fat or overweight, you know this right?

Last posters been comparing "skinny" vs "curvy" in a way which makes me think that your "curvy" girl is eating unhealthy/don't exercise/ or care for her look.

Curvy means, she is not bone and skin and has a lovely bum (at most).

+ 17mirrion

really skinny girls never have a good bum