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[Closed] BB vs BU bluff w PP on a draw haevy board

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Dublimax
Joined: 22.11.2008
Oldschool Grinder

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($229)
Hero ($125)
CO ($100)
BTN ($101) good reg VP:23/PFR:19/AF:2.7/WTSD:28/CBet:59/Steal form BU:62

Dealt to Hero 6♦ 6♥

fold, BTN raises to $2, fold, Hero calls $1

FLOP ($4.50) J♣ 9♣ K♠

Hero checks, BTN bets $3, Hero raises to $14, BTN calls $11

TURN ($32.50) J♣ 9♣ K♠ 8♥

Hero bets $23, BTN calls $23

RIVER ($78.50) J♣ 9♣ K♠ 8♥ 2♥

Hero bets $86.10 (AI), BTN ??

Read on him: called IP 2 barrels w 88 on K94r,7

I think it is a pretty good board to C/R, it hits pretty well my range (but also his I have to say).
When he calls the flop C/R his range should something like K9+, 99, JJ+, can have some FDs too. I guess I should be able to take him off most of his range by barreling.
Pretty happy with the 8 on the turn I think it is a good card to barrel.
Once he calls again I dont know if he will fold the river but I think it is a spot where I have to 3 barrel when I C/R that flop. Also from my read he might be the kind of player that doesn't give up easily which tends towards 3 barreling.


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salflip
Joined: 02.10.2007
Elite Grinder

So pf is standard, I think I would fold smaller pp's here (unless I expected him to 4b bluff then I would 3b all pp's to 5b shove) as they play poorly vs a solid player 100bb's deep. On this flop texture I can't see my self doing anything other than folding, you mentioned that it hits your range which it does, so villain is probably not going to be c-betting all that frequently here if he's any good.

In terms of equity, it's pretty poor on this texture even vs a 100% range on this flop, 66 has only 47% EQ vs ATC! You also have a small chance to improve, even the 6 :club: rolling off isn't that appealing.

The fact that this guy has shown the propensity to call your barrels lightly is even more of a compelling reason to c/f the flop as your going to have to commit to multiple barrels if you do choose to empty the clip.

As a general rule I don't like to bluff with very little EQ oop vs good regs, I just let my opponents do it :f_biggrin:


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Dublimax
Joined: 22.11.2008
Oldschool Grinder

I pretty much agree with everything you said salflip.
However if this board hits us well isn't it the best spot to be bluffing with our PP.
How can we play our PP if we don't play aggro on boards that hit our range?


Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008
Elite Grinder

If you start bluffing against these players on this board in which I think your range is a bit towards the ''lower''nuts since you would 3bet KJ,99+ frequently vs a minopen ; you have to empty the clip or give up after he calls your flopraise

Size the Turn bigger so you can shove under potsized which looks a bit more legit


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005
Oldschool Grinder

Totally agree with Gerv - vs him the board doesn't really hit much of our range because we're 3betting most of the Kx preflop.

Also as stated we don't have any equity and we even know the guy is callhappy - so to me it's an easy c/f on the flop.
You shold rather widen your valuerange vs him than trying to run huge 3barrelbluffs.


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