NL 100sh Weird spot vs min 5b click back

salflip

Joined: 02.10.2007

07.10.2011, 21:45 0

We have tangled before in the past and he knows I can 4b pretty light, caught him 5b shipping on me with A5s before.
Seen him c/r on 589r bet T 2 gives up on 8 R vs me in a srp with 33.

During this session I looked him up & he was 6 tabling aprox an hour be4 this hand went down and wasn't particularly active with 3bets, although he caught me 4b'ing light vs him when I thought he was getting out of line not too long ago and I had a very active image.

He tanked this hand and almost timed out (no timebank on ipoker) so im guessing his range is AQ+ TT+for value as he could be min 5betting as he didn't want to time out or he could also be trapping with AA or KK or even some weird bluff/misclick although I highly doubt it given how he was playing. Never seen him make this play before.

villains stats are 24/20 5.6 3b /12 4b over 9k

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($94.70)
BB ($103)
UTG ($106)
UTG+1 ($100)
Hero ($105)
BTN ($101)

Dealt to Hero J♠ J♦

UTG calls $1, UTG+1 raises to $4.50, Hero calls $4.50, fold, fold, BB raises to $14, fold, fold, Hero raises to $27, BB raises to $50, Hero ??

5 replies

Dublimax

Joined: 22.11.2008

Posts: 2,195

10.10.2011, 09:42 0

If you give him TT+, AQ that's an easy shove I guess

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salflip

Joined: 02.10.2007

Posts: 618

10.10.2011, 18:04 0

easy shove obv vs TT+ AQo+ but im not very certain of that range tbh, seems like he could be taking this line with AA-KK as well. or could just be me being results oriented

_Anonymous_

10.10.2011, 19:17 0

I'm shoving over his sqz in this spot since I'm never 4b/folding.
It also looks weaker, like u could have sth like 55.

As played I'm folding to his 5bet. In my experience it's KK, AA in 80% of cases especially with not that aggro dynamic.

Bierbaer

Joined: 27.05.2005

Posts: 3,322

13.10.2011, 08:20 0

Originally posted by z1pz0r
I'm shoving over his sqz in this spot since I'm never 4b/folding.
It also looks weaker, like u could have sth like 55.
Given that we saw he is capable of 5betbluffing I think the small 4bet is better than a shove.

As played I'm folding to his 5bet. In my experience it's KK, AA in 80% of cases especially with not that aggro dynamic.
It's hard to say what his actual range looks like, but in general I agree with this - and still, a thinking opponent could ofc easily exploit this by making it so small with smth like AK, too. In this case we should definitely shove JJ.

Originally posted by salflip
easy shove obv vs TT+ AQo+ but im not very certain of that range tbh, seems like he could be taking this line with AA-KK as well.

TT+,AQo+ ofc includes AA and KK.

On balance I personally fold JJ because it's my experience too that this min5bet is pretty much always KK+, but I think getting it in can't be a big mistake either given the history you have with him and the amount of money in the pot.

Variance giveth and variance taketh away.

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salflip

Joined: 02.10.2007

Posts: 618

13.10.2011, 10:21 0

I have seen this guy also make the play with AK, never as a bluff though hes only 5b jammed with bluffs so with this info i like the shove.

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