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Not much to say to the OP...

Playing with 5th of the original bankroll puts you at a VERY high risk of losing ALL you have even if you were already the best player in the world...

That has nothing to do with the new generation of players...that's a losing long term player. If that's what you want, to lose in the long run, keep it up.


First of all, a clarification:

Players such as Tom Dwan or Gus Hansen are NOT maniacs. They are very good loose aggressive players. Their aggressiveness is very selective for interesting spots and they don't just gamble when they KNOW the odds are against them in general (few exceptions of course).

Playing well like that requires very good understanding of marginal situations. Even Gus Hansen said that a beginner should begin tight and open up his range gradually as he gets used to new situations.

Unselective aggression with no logic behind it other than wanting to gamble and/or win the nits' money leads to being a maniac (as opposed to a good LAG player).

And while being a nit is not good, even nits have a positive EV over maniacs in the long run if the maniac is not selective enough.

Also, the way you talk about your style make it seem like many of the players you call nits are actually just normal TAG players. your EV against them is ----- until you get a better handle on marginal situations.

Basically - learn the basics FIRST. Understand the game!
become a winning player.

THEN, and only then, will you even have the right to talk about a new generation of winning players... until then, you'll be losing most of the time


acceleration123
Joined: 11.12.2010

I think you should make a video for Poker Strategy so we get some insight into your thought process and the in deep game analyzes, but I think no need to hurry, because they are definitely contacting you soon on their own.


Lets say that IF i reach a HIGH LEVEL , for me 10 K , and that s enough , maybe then i would post some information about my thought process behind the game to share the beauty of poker in a video, in the end poker is a competition, and if you are such a good psychologist, then you will figure things up for yourself, and for others, and HOPEFULLY maybe make a lot of money :f_p:
I recomend to watch youtube videos there you will learn some advanced strategy .
For now i stopped playing for like 2 months, I am in debt like 150 dollars and i have to rethink my game because i stay very bad on the math part...


staktas
Joined: 28.03.2011

Lol, mathematic part, you say... I wonder, what kind of maths maniacs uses :)) I'm sure they aren't counting odds, and basic stuff, like we, "nits" do. That must be some advance maniac's calculations ;D

And about the part, that you'll make a video, when you reach high limit. Surprise surprise, we won't get any video ;( no wonder you're in debt...


Gerovit
Joined: 16.01.2011

i would post some information about my thought process behind the game to share the beauty of poker in a video, in the end poker is a competition, and if you are such a good psychologist, then you will figure things up for yourself, and for others, and HOPEFULLY maybe make a lot of money :f_p:

Im not sure psychologist can understand your thought process but psycho sth should give a try...

I recomend to watch youtube videos there you will learn some advanced strategy

As i said above


Thanks for your support :f_frown:


Maniatrix
Joined: 01.11.2008

Don't let these people discourage you with there negativity. Keep playing your style, it rocks!
You will experience more success if you just deposit a lot of money and start playing at higher levels though. Maybe 1k and start playing nl50 cash games of Stars, there is a lot of multitabling nits there ready to be pushed around!


tofu22
Joined: 18.10.2008

when your blog is in the downswing reports, you MUST know your doing bad.


well im gonna say tjis first bankroll management !!!! dont play 5/10c man 2/5 !!!!!!!!!!!!! bcuz 2/4 or whatever other limit smaller than 2/5 sux as s ... next one .. i have a friend that burnd alot of br's including myself on stupid mistakes.2nd perseverence... its a good quality in poker i am curently at my xx br trying to make something curently playin nl10 almost to nl25 wich is great.... 3rd study m8... i curently stop studying poker because the game of microlimits has no more secrets for me lol(i hope im not to arrogant here, but i have alot of exp in micro). So the hands u described there, yes they suck, you could of done better, but again you need a hud, like holdem manager, thats what i use, prolly best if you have a friend to put up the money with you to buy the microlimits version it will cost you like i dont know 15-20 $ each and when you purchase it you get 2 keys so you can both use it. Again i say study as much as you can on the limit you are playing on 1-2 h, i prefer 1 h cuz i dont really like studying anything, then go put the things you learned in action, but usually in microlimits being an uber nit is all that it takes, wait for your cards hit nuts get a stack, thats how it pretty much goes, dont go after a 2nd pair on the river, and there are alot of other things that i cant really explain here lol ... just read the strategy articles here on ps they will help you, look at reviwed hands, get a sweat session buddy if possible, its always good to hear another persons opinion about your game, and when they say that you are doing something wrong fuck your ego listen to them, i got a br busted with my ego lol. Again no worries if its you first br we all learn from our mistakes, but because ps i here other people post their mistakes here so you can learn from them instead of doing the mistakes yourself lol. So keep your head up and move on :)


Steelbrewer
Joined: 22.04.2009

Funny to see some guys giving cereus answers to OP.

:coolface:


Unsure if OP is trolling or he really just doesnt know :f_biggrin:


well, you showed 'em all how to play serious poker... don't you think that your storry obviously doesn't hold? i mean - if your strategies are winning, how you lost it all by fallowing them?

i was smartass 2, before i started to read articles at this site... and sometimes i even cracked AA or AK with 78o or something like that... and here i figured out that i collect only 20% variance, and not 80% of winnings, and i was most of time throwing money by paying other peoples raises in chase for gutshots...


ArkhamAsylum
Joined: 06.09.2011

I think this whole thread was some joke by the thread maker


fuzzyfish
Joined: 12.01.2010

Relax guys. Thats what makes poker profitable for us. Monkeys spewing away their money and calling it a "downswing".


Originally posted by fishnumber1
Tom Dwan and Phil Ivey will be old generation in the future as new generation players will reshape POKER TO OTHER limits more complex and insane . I am not saying that I will make a difference but imagine if players like me can think so deep about the game what will happen to the BRIGHT FUTURE OF POKER


Originally posted by TiciBoy
You played well, just got some bad luck. :f_cool:
Try depositing couple of hundreds and go play NL100, You will probably do better there, they will respect your raises. :f_biggrin:


Anyone that arrogant and starting out with $50 is just amusing - thanks for making me smile. Work with bad BRM and you're going down. No one runs so good and I hope that behind the bravado, you learned a lesson. Best of luck for the future (just don't depend on luck alone)!


funnyclock
Joined: 06.06.2011

Not sure if this thread is serious

Good read though