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[Closed] KK, low paired board vs min-raise

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swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)   
[tg]BU$134.30:///////;Hero$236:///////;[/tg]
0.50/1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K♥, K♦
Hero raises to $4.00, CO folds, BU calls $4.00, 2 folds.

Flop: ($9.50) 5♠, 6♣, 5♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $8, BU calls $8.00.

Turn: ($25.50) J♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $19, BU raises to $38.00, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $82.50

Easy fold here? Or is it better to call and check/call the river?


8 replies
Timor83
Joined: 08.06.2007

I think Villains line almost always means he hit a boat or a 5. All other hand he'd probably just call the turn with.


Thorsten77
Joined: 28.05.2006

I never give up in this spot: he may have a 5, but also 77+, a JT hand that peals the flop or a pure bluff. I call the turn and call any river bet.


debelinko
Joined: 11.04.2007

I agree with thorsten. Flop is very dry so he probably thinks you miss here often and will decide to float quite a lot.


Schelles
Joined: 05.07.2007

I think villain is bluffing, or posibly AJ. call & checkcall the river is what I would do.


Timor83
Joined: 08.06.2007

If Villain was bluffing, why would he only minraise? Would a hand like 77-TT minraise the turn? They either raise on the flop or call you down, but they almost never minraise the turn. Folding on the turn is indeed to weak, but I'm not very happy about a calldown either.


I've seen people minraising with lower pp on turn in similar situations to be able to get to the showdown more cheap this way, kind of like a blockbet on turn in position.


Sebra
Joined: 01.08.2006

Call, check/call sucks because you don't get value out of worse hands (maybe AJ) but always pay him of if he has a better one. And by the river, he has just around a PSB left.

Without further information, you can call and c/fold the river because this would be a bad spot to bluff or you fold on the turn, because especially at lower stakes, baluga theorem applies. So if someone raises the turn, they often have something better than a one pair hand.


Some suited connectors like 57, 54 are possible, but I don´t think that BU has 5 here too often.
Your problem is that you can never just call turn raise here.
The best you may hope is flushdraw imo, unless villain is really tricky. I would call and see what he does on the river.