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Originally posted by dogma18
i'll take 5/1 in your favour that he'll be busto by Dec 30th.

you have way too good odds ...
seriously OP play BRM


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Waiboy
Joined: 18.09.2008

Originally posted by dogma18
but seriously butterballa you shouldnt be playing at a limit with anything less than 30 buyins. you will go broke 100% of the time. I've played poker for like 2 years and gone broke loads of times not playing by the bankroll rules. I just takes time to realise your mistakes and become more discipline.

The only way you could play with less than 30 buyins is if your very experienced and move down strictly if you lose a few.

This is quality advice and I 100% endorse these comments.

Short term luck >>> skill; (lets say under 20k hands as being short term which is arguable, and in all likelihood too little).

Long term skill >>> luck.

Originally posted by Butterballa
It's my playstyle. I've quite honestly figured out how to play these limits, i mean..

Even if that is true (which is very unlikely because of the way you're reacting, which is emotionally rather than analytically) playing that aggressive level of bank roll management means you are very likely to go broke. And if your heater continues (and it is a heater, good players lose even to bad players in the short term) you will most likely move up too soon and when the heater ends your bank roll will be wiped out at an accelerated rate.

When you are winning due to the luck factor, decisions are easy because you keep getting cards. You can make a couple of poor decisions but because the results are positive you end up not critically reviewing the play. If you are serious about playing winning poker, please review the BRM articles and abide by them. Sure it's boring, but becoming a winning poker player requires a lot of boring, hard work for the vast majority of us.

Read the introduction article, paying particular attention to the "What is Bankroll Management" section. Note it's position in the article indicating just how important it is!

Introduction article

Best of luck and work hard!


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Tarhonya
Joined: 18.07.2010

I hope you'll take the advice you've been given because eventually your luck will change.


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w4terman
Joined: 04.04.2011

hope you do well!

keep us informed


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Originally posted by Tarhonya
I hope you'll take the advice you've been given because eventually your luck will change.

Oh it sure has... I'm done for the night after these 2 hands in the past 10 mins:

Lose K high straight with JJ to AJ
Lose full house to higher full house (Off BB check i had 36 and got 2pair on flop. He flopped a set of 4's, another 6 came) sickest beat i've had so far.

Horrible hands today all around. Back to grinding tomorrow


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outspan
Joined: 07.02.2010

Originally posted by Butterballa

Originally posted by Tarhonya
I hope you'll take the advice you've been given because eventually your luck will change.

Oh it sure has... I'm done for the night after these 2 hands in the past 10 mins:

Lose K high straight with JJ to AJ
Lose full house to higher full house (Off BB check i had 36 and got 2pair on flop. He flopped a set of 4's, another 6 came) sickest beat i've had so far.

Horrible hands today all around. Back to grinding tomorrow

I don't wanna say we told you so, but...

Spoiler

we told you so

Poker is not a get-rich-quick scheme. The best thing you can do, before you throw away the rest of your money, is to read and understand the strategy articles and why it's important to have a good bankroll management.

Some food for thought:
:diamond: if you lose 50%, you need to make 100% back to break even.
:heart: if you lose 2%, you need to make 2.04% back to break even.


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50$ during a day?
And I can't even earn 10$ during 2 months.
This is feel good, oh wait, it isn't.

How you can managed to get this big of money, man?


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gxtwo
Joined: 15.12.2010

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Originally posted by Butterballa

Originally posted by Tarhonya
I hope you'll take the advice you've been given because eventually your luck will change.

Oh it sure has... I'm done for the night after these 2 hands in the past 10 mins:

Lose K high straight with JJ to AJ
Lose full house to higher full house (Off BB check i had 36 and got 2pair on flop. He flopped a set of 4's, another 6 came) sickest beat i've had so far.

Sixes full losing to fours full. Wow that is a sick beat :coolface:


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Originally posted by jeszkar
50$ during a day?
And I can't even earn 10$ during 2 months.
This is feel good, oh wait, it isn't.

How you can managed to get this big of money, man?

Mostly luck if you don't play BRM.


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w4terman
Joined: 04.04.2011

are you still with us ?


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Originally posted by w4terman
are you still with us ?

:tongue:


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Hey guys! Sorry i've been busy moving a buddy in with me the past few days.

To update: The 5:1 pays out, however for different reasons than you'd think. I continued dominating on nl10 with no troubles, however I was getting really tired of the routine play you see there (EVERYONE plays the same game, theres just no surprises) and decided to move up to NL25 and 50 (with the full knowledge i would be busting out doing so) just to check out the players and decide on what my first deposit should be. I'd like to start higher than 10, and it's gonna take a loooong time to grind that up to a nice bankroll.. rather just make a big deposit after having tested the waters at different stakes!

I consider the experiment a success though, I'm gonna stick with dominating NL10 and make a large first deposit to sustain that. I may play 3-4 NL10 and one NL25 multi, because I actually did quite well at 25 too, it's just out of my range to play it comfortably right now.

This site has helped a lot, I just needed to dive into it and really see the absolute RISKIEST brm, the safest, and the mid-range. I'm gonna stick with the mid-range for now because NL10 was smooth sailing, I consistently beat it and my showdown winnings were superb.

I'll be checking in after i make my first deposit! Our home poker group has begun


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w4terman
Joined: 04.04.2011

yea looks like its better to stick to nlh10 !

if you are dominating nhl10 it will not get you much time to move to nlh25

gl _love:


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Definitely the best call here. I'm also looking for NL10 skype groups to join in addition to our small home crew here, if anybody has any suggestions it would be nice :)

I've started to get into Omaha a bit too, very interesting game as well!

Good luck to everyone!


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MrMardyBum
Joined: 14.03.2009

Originally posted by Butterballa
Definitely the best call here. I'm also looking for NL10 skype groups to join in addition to our small home crew here, if anybody has any suggestions it would be nice :)

I've started to get into Omaha a bit too, very interesting game as well!

Good luck to everyone!

We have a chat group, was a CG group, but has now expanded to a bit of everything... Add me via community if interested :)

Best of luck,

Danny


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Calcul0n
Joined: 29.11.2011

ill take you up on that too, we play together a lot. we finally found that you can play 45 man sit n go's in the same house on pokerstars, ive been continuously owning butterballa in every one can play heads up in home games too, i like the home games interface a lot


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CheckBop
Joined: 20.11.2010

congrats friend


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