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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

Originally posted by MilanBurdych
Gratz, looks like a nice day!

Originally posted by LgWz
Congrats :)

+1 Nice job, Tim! Happy birthday as well! 36 isn't bad at all, especially when you are settled for what you deserve and expect from life :) Good luck in the future!


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Schrader69
Joined: 08.03.2008

sounds like a happy birthday, gratz


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Happy birthday sir!

T.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Going through a pretty significant downswing right now, both $ and buyins. My redline has dropped 25 or so buyins in last 200 games which sucks as a lot of these are $100s and $55s.

Will be something of a test since I'm used to my redline heading up fairly steadily on the whole, and have it dip down steeply is quite tilting in all honesty. Quite a few coolers, it seems, and prolly some sub-optimal play.

It's quite tempting to just omit playing $100s since they are so swingy and losing does so much BR damage (relative to other limits). But I know that beating the limit (even if only for 3% or so) might mean the difference between $20-30k annual earnings and something closer to $40k.

On the plus side, I'm only 0.5 point away from my first Dog Gauntlet success. Lunch beckons, but more importantly, I'm sufficiently brave enough to walk through my local park these days - I used to avoid it b/c there were so many dogs...

Pilates this evening was uncomfortable but bearable. Committment to the cause of better health is still strong.

[Finalweekofmonthrungood.exe installing...]


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I'm glad your fear for dogs is getting better, quite brave to face it imo, since it is so easy to avoid it all together. May I ask what caused this fear for dogs, have you been attacked in the past?


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Originally posted by Demonic226
I'm glad your fear for dogs is getting better, quite brave to face it imo, since it is so easy to avoid it all together. May I ask what caused this fear for dogs, have you been attacked in the past?

No, think maybe I picked it up off my dad - maybe something he said... Or something I can't quite remember that happened when I was young. In any event, it's a largely irrational fear and mainly the bark that makes me jump.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Haemorrhaging money at the moment. Found at least 5 clear push/fold errors today (not just close spots; outright mistakes).

Running into monsters and slowrolling f*kwits waiting 5 seconds to call me with Aces.

After an awesome start to the month, it's gone rather to sh*t. Combination of complacency, BR tilt (since I'm strictly underrolled for the $109s - though not for my ABI), and card distribution/not connecting with flops.

Need to slow things down. Day off tomorrow then on friday, I will 6-table (max) and really make sure I'm not auto-pilotting my way to regfishland... :)


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akrammon
Joined: 17.05.2009

I know I'm very late, but I wish you a very happy birthday, Tim! God, I might just open a bottle of wine 'cos you got me in the mood for it :)


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Feels like I have turned a corner, mentally, with a much better attitude than a few days ago.

Am receiving a real kicking at the moment (the sharp-pointed-Rosa Klebb stabbing-bit of which is that this is probably the first time it's happened at the mid-high stakes). You know, where you get it all in pre on the bubble with a big pair versus a small pair, and watch the board ran out dry as anything until the inevitable small pair set up on the River.

Although the money is slightly bigger, the sensation is one I have been through before many times. I think knowing that will help get through it.

Had a really interesting Skype discussion with Shev and z1pz0r earlier this afternoon. It was so inspiring that it caused the following to happen:

:facepalm:


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Dublimax
Joined: 22.11.2008

Find it difficult to play and have a deep hand analysis convo as u had. I cant do it.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Originally posted by Dublimax
Find it difficult to play and have a deep hand analysis convo as u had. I cant do it.

Convo first; play second. Simultaneous is beyond me too.


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Calling all SNG players:

I'm interested in finding out about the correlation (if any) between big blinds/100 win rate and ROI in SnGs.

If you would like to help me, here's what you should do (using HEM):

Go to the Reports tab under Tourneys. Using the "Overall" report name check your bb/100 and make a note of it. Please also make a note of how many hands this is (so we can take account of sample size). Then go to Results tab under Tourneys and have a look at your ROI %. Make a note of it. Also make a note of how many tournaments this is equivalent to.

Important: please use your real ROI%, not your EV ROI. This is what will potentially equate with bb/100 (we could use EV bb/100, of course, but that's another experiment...).

To get the ball rolling, I have played 265,000 hands, in 5430 tournaments. My bb/100 is 8.43 and my ROI is 5.4%. (Just for reference, my ROI for only FR games is lower, at 1.9% and bb/100 is 6.83, over 1850 games). This is already interesting and suggests the correlation may be weak, since the reduction in ROI is much bigger than the reduction in bb/100 win rate.

If you are interested in this experiment or indeed if you have a point of view as to why it may not be useful or in any way flawed, please post your results and/or thinking here. If you don't want to post publicly but would like to help with the experiment, feel free to Skype or PM me. I will treat all such requests with confidentiality.

Many thanks,
Tim64

p.s. bring on month end -- this one sucks!


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dydukas
Joined: 01.05.2009

Last 3 months of 5max turbo: 120,000 hands, 5.5 bb/100, 2820 games, 4.5% ROI.


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Originally posted by Tim64
Had a really interesting Skype discussion with Shev and z1pz0r earlier this afternoon. It was so inspiring that it caused the following to happen:

:facepalm:


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Thanks, dydukas, for being first off the block. _thumbsup:

z1pz0r, nothing to laugh about - you're obviously bad karma, man.

Spoiler

(jk) ;)


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008

Hey!

Last 5 months 9mans turbo ABI about 15$, 16,190 games, 3,9% ROI and 3,16 bb/100 in 1,066,834 hands.
Last 12 months 9mans turbo + non turbo at PS and FT ABI about 15$, 24,310 games, 4,6% ROI and 2,63 bb/100 in 1,447,421 hands.

Hope it helps. I have solid database from 9mans, if u want any data, just say...I am always interested in numbers ;)

EDIT:
I dont think there is any relevance between ROI and bb/100...I like this stat only when I look at my play at different blind levels - I can see that I have highes bb/100 at 10/20 and 15/30 coz am stacking off with nuts and monsters and so on. At mid stage it is almost flipping so there it will be slightly negative. Also when I filter number of players it is interesting - for HUs especially.
There are numbers filtered by players (rough numbers) - 8-3-1,5-1-(-0,5)-(-2)-3-4,5 (from 9 players to 2 players bb/100).
So I am very interested how did u guys made such a high bb/100 with similar ROI to mine? ;)


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

As you know, Christmas was quite traumatic for me due to suffering a high level of pain throughout. I therefore planned on having a relatively low-volume month (is there anything else with me?) in order to give myself a chance to recuperate properly. I knew that if I made $1500 or so, that would be a good result. Halfway through the month, I'd already made over $2000 and it seemed I was heading for a really big score. Everything was great. Brimming with confidence, I decided to make a concerted run at the $109s. And then everything went bad. :)

STT Tournaments: 650
Average buyin: $44.82
ROI 1.4%
EV Roi -2.3%
SnG Profit: $402.50
EV Profit: $-672.30
Estimated points-based rake back: $760.58
Deposit Bonus: $100.00
Gemstone: $300.00

Total Profit: $1448.48
Total EV profit (estimated): $388.28
Hours played: 91.3
$/Hr: 15.87/h
EV $/Hr: $4.25/h

In the end, thanks to the Gemstone promo, my overall profit for the month is very close to what I decided would be reasonable at the start, given my poor level of health. And yet my general sense of the month is that it was basically a failure. And of course that just shows the slippery way our minds have of forgetting the plans that have been made and the expectations that have been set and focusing on overly positive or negative aspects of our life. Objectivity, it seems, is hard to come by.

By way of illuminating that point further, my first reaction at seeing an EV loss of nearly $700 for the month is one of pure horror. So used have I been to the red line's constant elevation that seeing it nosing down below the $0 line was somewhat panic-inducing. And it's taken me the last two or three days to get my head around that nonsense. The reality is that I managed a comfortable 10% EV ROI for all the games I played below the $55s this month (a clear majority of the games) whereas I did badly at the $55s and $109s and, because of the enormous difference between the top and bottom buyin levels, running (and perhaps playing) badly at the high limit games has skewed the overall result significantly. To put that in concrete terms, losing one $109 game puts you in the same financial position as losing five $22s, but it doesn't take a genius to see that it's a lot easier to lose one game than five.

The graph showing the month's results in terms of buyins is not nearly so depressing:

As usual, the lesson here is that when moving up limits one needs to be careful not to place too much emphasis on short-term results at those limits (good or bad), since the relatively high buyins will have a magnifying effect. It's also worth pointing out, of course, that the higher buyin games are also tougher by nature (with correspondingly lower ROIs) which means one is more likely to encounter a losing streak. All that said, I won't be in any hurry to have another crack at the full ring $109s. I need to at least demonstrate the ability to beat the shorthanded games, where I'm currently EV breakeven after a very small sample.

Tomorrow I'm basically taking the day off in order to treat myself to lunch out in recognition of my death-defying Dog Gauntlet achievements, as well as putting together the Directors' second-quarter report in which it's jolly likely that investors will be fobbed off with further discussion of "the magnifying effects of high buyin games" and other accountancy tricks designed to make it look like I've done better during the last 3 months than in reality! ;)


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

Tim, I don't know if I can express myself fully the way I respect you. Each of your posts shows class, intelligence and deep thoughts. A true gentleman poker pro of the english community. Health is what matters the most and I really hope you get it fixed as soon as possible, so you can enjoy everything in life even more.

P.S. Solid month as well, you reached your goal, this way or another. I am sure you will be able beat the 50s and 100s with the time. The sooner the better.

Wish you all best on the tables :) And not only.


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akrammon
Joined: 17.05.2009

Originally posted by kurrkabin
Tim, I don't know if I can express myself fully the way I respect you. Each of your posts shows class, intelligence and deep thoughts. A true gentleman poker pro of the english community. Health is what matters the most and I really hope you get it fixed as soon as possible, so you can enjoy everything in life even more.

P.S. Solid month as well, you reached your goal, this way or another. I am sure you will be able beat the 50s and 100s with the time. The sooner the better.

Wish you all best on the tables :) And not only.

+1

wanted to write something smart, but can't add anything. I have faith in you Tim!


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StaticMoth
Joined: 22.05.2009

An inevitably"clicheish", but necessary +2 to all of the above :f_thumbsup:


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