Ghartman: Homework Lesson 8

Good Job! Homework #7 Done!

About Question #3:
In this case, you decided to bet out yourself and two players behind you go all-in. You would have to invest $8.40 in order to participate in a $22 pot, which corresponds to an equity of 27.63%.

Board: Q:h 3:s 2:h
Dead:

Equity Win DrawLoss Hand
Player 1: 38.538% 38.538% 0.000% 61.462% 5h4h
Player 2: 14.540% 14.540% 0.000% 85.460% QQ+
Player 3: 46.921% 46.921% 0.000% 53.079% 22-33

You get the required odds even when you're exclusively up against very strong hands!

About Question #4:
Top pair / top kicker has been and will always be a hand that's tough to play, especially in a multi-way pot. In this case, you've hit a nice flop, but you're up against 3 opponents on a dry board which doesn't allow for any dangerous draws.

A fold on this board is, of course, too weak. You can't really hit much better and there might be worse Ax hands willing to pay you off.

If you think that your opponent(s) is/are often willing to go broke on the flop with worse hands, raising might not be the worst of choices. But one thing is clear: if you raise, you have to go all-in on the flop! Raise/fold with your top pair is absolutely out of question.

Even though this might leave a bitter aftertaste in a 4-way pot, you should play this like a way ahead / way behind spot here - by playing it passive, you will extract the maximum from weaker hands and bluffs while avoiding big losses against stronger hands.

LoL @ the hands. Yeah, I saw ya evaluating them. ♦ Don't worry, it's still fine. I was just trolling around. Veriz never sleeps.

Best of Luck on the Tables.

Question 1: Post a hand for evaluation.

Answer: I posted these 2:

nl4 Nut Flush on Paired Board Hyper Aggression!

nl4 Flopped Set & A Lot of Action!

Question 2: Evaluate one of the hands submitted by other members.

Answer: I evaluated this hand:

NL5. KK in multiway pot, bad turn.

Question 3: Consider the following situation:

$100 NL Hold'em (9 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($100)
MP1 ($100)
MP2 ($100)
Hero ($100)
CO ($100)
BU ($100)
SB ($100)
BB ($100) (18/15/3.7/23/732)[VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS/Hands]

Preflop: Hero is BU with 8 , 9
4 folds, Hero raises to $4.00, 3 folds, BB calls $4.00

Flop: ($8.50) 3 , 6 , 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.50 BB calls $5.50

Turn: ($19.50) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero...

What action would you take, and why?

Answer: I'm not sure if this is a trick question but you surely bet here. You've bet with a pair of 8's and a flush draw on the flop and hit on the turn. Although your opponent is a TAG and does not go to showdown much, you need to get value for your hand. I would bet around $12-13 here and re-evaluate the river.

BONUS Question 4 (optional question): Consider the following situation:

$200 NL Hold'em (6 handed)

Stacks & Stats:
MP2 (Hero) ($327.95)
MP3 ($207.45)
CO ($415.55) (TAG)
BU ($373.60) (TAG)
SB ($200.00)
BB ($218.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7 , 8
Hero raises to $7, 1 folds, CO raises to $23, BU calls $23, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $16

Flop: ($72) 7 , 8 , 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU bets $52, Hero calls, CO calls

Turn: ($228) K (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BU checks

River: ($228) Q (3 players)
Hero bets $110, CO raises to $340.55 (All-in), BU folds, Hero?

What factors and concepts that you have learned so far would you use in evaluating this situation? What would your action be?

Answer: Ok, so you've been 3-bet pre flop and had another caller. Immediately you should start assigning ranges. I think you could rule out AA & KK because most probably there would have been a 4-bet. QQ is definitely possible for CO & BU + maybe AKs, AKo, 10's+, AQs, etc.

BU's bet on the flop indicates strength with 2 villains still in the pot with him so I'm narrowing him down to possibly concealed AA, KK but certainly at least an overpair of some kind, possibly JJ . CO's call could mean he is on a draw, maybe 9 10s, 56s or again another over pair. Hero should definitely bet the turn in my opinion. 2 opponents still in the hand showing interest, let's build the pot but the check is also fine.

On the river CO shoves, BU folds. In equilab I assign CO a 5.8% range inc. AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKs & AKo etc ... We still get 80% equity on the river so it's a definite call in my opinion.

On the river CO shoves, BU folds. In equilab I assign CO a 5.8% range inc. AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AKs & AKo etc ... We still get 80% equity on the river so it's a definite call in my opinion.

Why do you put hands like AK in his range? I mean you have to remember the flopaction, CO played check/call against 2 opponents. Whould he really do that with AK aka absolute air?
And why should he turn JJ or AA into a bluff on the river, there are no worse hands than AA or JJ which can call the all-in.

Good Job! Homework #8 Done!

About Question #3:
In this case, the right answer is quite obvious. Both AF and WTS speak in favor of a check behind for bluff induce. But your hand is too strong here, so you want to get it all-in on the turn. There are a lot of hands you still have to protect against, too. Playing for bluff induce or pot control would simply be too weak and dangerous.

About Question #4:
About preflop play I'd say that it's still doable while we even are a bit deeper. I expect the hero to play solid postflop play. So Calling is definitely fine here with having 2 opponents in the hand and getting great implied odds. But for more beginners it's definitely a very close spot while they ain't gonna be able to lay down weak hands.

As we have the information that CO is a TAG player. Therefore, we expect him to have a strong 3bet range. Unless we have some other information like he has a wide 3bet range. But while we don’t have that, we basically consider his range to be something QQ+, AK or sometimes even tighter.

So now you have to ask yourself what kind of hands would play like this on river? KK may slowplay like this. QQ definitely is as well in his range. AK/AA he wouldn’t play this way since he know himself as well that he isn’t going to get Called by worse hands. So basically it’s up to the nuts most often. You only beat bluff there and I don’t expect the opponent to bluff in this case unless we know the table dynamics better.

Best of Luck in The Exam!

Good Job! Your exam is done and evaluated! Also of your Passed! Congrats! You will soon get your signature.

I would now advice to take a look at the No Limit Advanced Learning path. Which is located here: No Limit Advanced Learning Path. Although it's without any homework but it's still a path which will help you get the understanding of more advanced stuff. Although it may require higher ranks. Some may require even Gold status.

You are still welcome to use this thread for your progress and if you face any questions about your play/stats or anything you want to ask. Also don't hesitate to continue posting hands which I will be most likely evaluating.

About your exam:
You did take the exam really seriously and that's only good since the more seriously you take poker the more likely it will be that you invest enough time into to it to become a good poker player. I did really like the answers of yours. Although of course as most of the students you had also problems with the math tasks, needs still improvement. But well, it's more advanced part so I wouldn't really be worried about that! You did really great overall.

We most likely gonna continue evaluating your hands and of course your overall progress in this thread in future. We still have some leaks to fix.

In future we gonna concentrate more on your hands and try to fix some leaks which. Hopefully you gonna continue posting in the thread. We could take a look at stats and many different kind of things. Maybe even some mindset problem.

Do you have any questions about the exam?

Good Luck on the Tables and with the next learning Path. If you have any questions don't hesitate to hop in your Locker Room thread and ask or post your progress.

Originally posted by veriz
Good Job! Your exam is done and evaluated! Also of your Passed! Congrats! You will soon get your signature.

I would now advice to take a look at the No Limit Advanced Learning path. Which is located here: No Limit Advanced Learning Path. Although it's without any homework but it's still a path which will help you get the understanding of more advanced stuff. Although it may require higher ranks. Some may require even Gold status.

You are still welcome to use this thread for your progress and if you face any questions about your play/stats or anything you want to ask. Also don't hesitate to continue posting hands which I will be most likely evaluating.

About your exam:
You did take the exam really seriously and that's only good since the more seriously you take poker the more likely it will be that you invest enough time into to it to become a good poker player. I did really like the answers of yours. Although of course as most of the students you had also problems with the math tasks, needs still improvement. But well, it's more advanced part so I wouldn't really be worried about that! You did really great overall.

We most likely gonna continue evaluating your hands and of course your overall progress in this thread in future. We still have some leaks to fix.

In future we gonna concentrate more on your hands and try to fix some leaks which. Hopefully you gonna continue posting in the thread. We could take a look at stats and many different kind of things. Maybe even some mindset problem.

Do you have any questions about the exam?

Good Luck on the Tables and with the next learning Path. If you have any questions don't hesitate to hop in your Locker Room thread and ask or post your progress.

Thanks a lot for the input Veriz! I'm so glad I passed first time, I was pretty sure I completely bombed it!!!! Yeah, some of the break even equity questions caused me problems because I think I missed the lessons about those calculations, so I did the best I could with the xl calculator from what I saw in one of your podcasts.

I'm not sure if you can do this but would you be able to pick a few questions I got wrong, maybe some of the break even questions, and talk me through how to work them out correctly with the calculator please? Just 1 or 2 would be great! Take your time.

I'll keep posting hands and working on my game. I'm steadily making more money than ever so I'm sticking with this site!!!!

Thanks so much for your help so far, you are a very dedicated so keep up the good work!!!

Thanks

Hey mate,

we could talk about some new hands. As I was asked not to talk about the exam questions in the locker room. So maybe you could bring up some calculations yourself like post some hands and then we could talk about it and I am going to explain you everything.