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[Closed] .5/1 FR - Turn play

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Hawat
Joined: 15.02.2008

2nd night. Still losing :P (I don't mean with these hands, mind you ;) )

1)

0.5/1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.24 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with T♦, T♣. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
4 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Flop: (15.00 SB) 4♠, 8♠, A♦ (5 players)
SB bets, BB folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero raises, SB calls, MP2 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (11.50 BB) Q♦ (4 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets, SB calls, MP2 calls, CO folds.

River: (14.50 BB) 3♦ (3 players)
SB checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

Should I have checked turn?

2)

0.5/1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.24 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♠, 4♣
5 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 5♠, 4♥, 3♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) A♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 6♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 5.25 BB

Turn again. Is it right to bet here?
Btw, I'm using the short-hand chart to attack/defend blinds now. Is this right? I'll ask at the strategy thread anyway, so don't answer if this is not the proper place.

3)

0.5/1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.24 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q♥, T♣
UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, BU folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: (5.00 SB) Q♠, K♥, 8♣ (5 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (5.00 BB) 6♠ (5 players)
SB bets, 3 folds, CO calls.

River: (7.00 BB) 4♦ (2 players)
SB bets, CO folds.

Final Pot: 8.00 BB

...again...

4)

0.5/1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.24 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8♠, 8♣
5 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls, BU calls, SB folds, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 4♦, Q♦, 2♣ (4 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, BU calls, 2 folds.

Turn: (3.25 BB) J♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 9♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, BU bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB

...and again. It looks like I always bet turn when I have the initiative from flop, no matter what.

I have a lot of doubts at turn.


5 replies

1) Wow this is a very opimistic flopraise. Just call the flop for your outs and fold the turn unimproved.

2) Good. The bet is to take a freeshowdown so it's a very good one. I would answer your question here but since you have started another thread for it.... ;)

3) I like it.

4) Very nice. He has you very often beat but sometimes (often enough) it's a busted flushdraw.


Hawat
Joined: 15.02.2008

1) Yeah, I don't fear blinds enough :P

2) I'm not sure what a "raise for a free showdown" means. I've seen it in other hand reviews and maybe some articles.
Do you mean betting turn from the last position to avoid raisings at the river? When do you play this way?


regards to #2: A raise for a free showdown is when you're in position on the turn and raise with a marginal hand to see a free showdown (ie not having to call a river bet vs better hands)

It costs the same as a call down, the advantage is when you can force a better hand than yours out of the pot, the big disadvantage is if you force a worse hand not to pay you off. 3-bets also obviously suck and you usually have to fold.

It's in sklansky books and also is a gold article. I tend to use it heads up when I do use it. One thing about low limit players is that a lot of them just won't fold very much but a positive is that a lot of them go too far with really bad hands.


Well it's for protection as well so it's not only about making better hands to fold.


makes sense too, thnx Cirith.