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$3 BvB committing minRaise

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i'm quite sure he made the minR to maximise his FE - to be fair I can see this as scaring some Regs, especially if he's an unknown to them!
would you go for something like that? in what circumstances? (vs what opponents)

the SB is a good reg on the limit.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $400(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,430)
Hero ($3,810)
UTG ($2,290)
UTG+1 ($3,040)
UTG+2 ($1,730)
MP1 ($1,960)
MP2 ($2,160)
CO ($1,950)
BTN ($1,630)

Dealt to Hero Q♣ K♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $800, Hero raises to $3,810 (AI), SB calls $630 (AI)

FLOP ($2,860) 6♠ Q♥ 5♦

TURN ($2,860) 6♠ Q♥ 5♦ A♦

RIVER ($2,860) 6♠ Q♥ 5♦ A♦ 7♥

SB shows 7♦ 8♥
(Pre 35%, Flop 34.2%, Turn 18.2%)

Hero shows Q♣ K♥
(Pre 65%, Flop 65.8%, Turn 81.8%)

Hero wins $2,860


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Obviously KQo is nuts always.

Yep idea is to generate more fold equity by disguising own stack size. So it would be best used versus multitabling opponents who might more easily not notice stack depths.

But using this might also make BB play wider range versus SB when BB do notice what he tries to achieve as you have done here.


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008

I dont like it against the regs, coz you need to balance it. So u have to be min raising even the AA and why the *** would I like to maximize my FE there? So only if u r playing with him often, he adjusts properly and u r doing it every time it might be ok, but I still hate it...


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Originally posted by MilanBurdych
I dont like it against the regs, coz you need to balance it. So u have to be min raising even the AA and why the *** would I like to maximize my FE there? So only if u r playing with him often, he adjusts properly and u r doing it every time it might be ok, but I still hate it...

balancing on the $3 level is a waste of time. Most of Regs don't pay attention to spots like that. For a need to balance to emerge, he would have to think most Regs on the limit spend 1-2hrs a day reviewing hands and taking notes on opponents. Can they really expect that to happen on a level like this?

he might want to maximise FE to... ummm i don't know... really tough this one...win chips uncontested?!


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008

Well I disagree. No matter the limit, it doesnt take a genious to see that my opponent is min raising bvb with around 5bbs with the trash and shoving every value hand...:) It is just one or two notes, no need to review anything. And again, why the *** would you like to take chips uncontested with AA in this spot? :)


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Originally posted by MilanBurdych
Well I disagree. No matter the limit, it doesnt take a genious to see that my opponent is min raising bvb with around 5bbs with the trash and shoving every value hand...:) It is just one or two notes, no need to review anything. And again, why the *** would you like to take chips uncontested with AA in this spot? :)

I stand by what I said first, almost no-one pays attention to patterns like these, how would they anyway if people that DO take notes on the $3s are mostly semi-bad 9-tablers?

you would want to take chips uncontested the zillion other times where you don't hold a strong hand

And one more thing - your manner of responding to shit is pissing me off, it's so pretentious. if you're going to be a dick why don't you not respond at all


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008

OK, am sorry if I offended you, that was definitely not what I intended. It was just the way how to express my question properly, probably missused my english...


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Originally posted by MilanBurdych
OK, am sorry if I offended you, that was definitely not what I intended. It was just the way how to express my question properly, probably missused my english...

no it wasn't your english I can recognize when someone sounds offensive because they're obnoxious and you're not the case - your english is perfectly fine.

i guess it was that "why the f**k would you want to (...)" that i didn't like.

there probably was some exaggeration on my part, let's forget it.


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MilanBurdych
Joined: 20.05.2008

Definitely not ment to be offensive, believe me...


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Well, if SB is indeed a good player, I would also agree that he tried to disguise his desperate steal attempt, as it could be for value. The problem is that he should have raised 2.5x, because min-raise looks very weak, so it most likely will fail anyways.

Misclick here also could be the case.


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klofutaric
Joined: 09.02.2010

Some players do that when they have a strong hand and tried to look like a steal, maybe they play to play stop and go, but with KQ is this easy call.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Originally posted by ghaleon
Obviously KQo is nuts always.

Yep idea is to generate more fold equity by disguising own stack size. So it would be best used versus multitabling opponents who might more easily not notice stack depths.

But using this might also make BB play wider range versus SB when BB do notice what he tries to achieve as you have done here.

This. Also please be nice in my forums .


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