[Closed] Poker for a life - in just three months?

You misquoted me with regards to quizzes, I was referring to the quizzes on SitNGo Wizard. It puts you in situations from different positions on the table, like you're in a proper game and you have to decide which is the best option. There's also tutorials, options to analyse previous sng's you might have played etc. You can get it on a 30 day free trial.

No offence taken on the bronze status thing lol, I was simply making a point you shouldn't judge and categorise people from a status alone.

As for pokertracking software, I can only really vouch for pokertracker as that's all I've ever used, even at that I'm still on an older version. Just search around, read reviews etc.

Is this the only and final career path or choice you can make?? i mean i dont know about you or the rest of the community here, but poker for me is a hobby. Can it be turned into a career?..of course just like anything in life whether your a professional basketball player or Musician etc.... it all starts as a hobby or sport and develops in time with experience. considering your situation though it might not be the wisest thing to take up considering your lack of steady income and experience in the game of poker. This is my view on the subject, ultimately it is your decision to make.

This will be the best decision you will make in your life today.
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Hi,

I was able to earn $150/mo since 4th month of my "poker career".
BUT:
- Months #1,2,3 = only 45 hours of play/mo. Month #4 ~ 70 hours of play. (dunno how much time spent for learning)
- there was a lot of experimenting (NL/Limit/shots against BM/playing to loose etc.)
- I’m obviously not that "fast" compare to other players in PS community:)

What can you do to speed up this process?:
- Spend more time playing/learning than i did.
- Do not experiment to much. You have to believe that what they say in videos/articles about bankroll management/preflop ranges etc. is true, even if you don’t understand it yet!

My advice is to keep your $1200 away of poker. You will need it if your poker job plan fail/take more time than expected. $50 for the beginning is enough. If you can’t do it from $50 then just leave it.

How much they earn in regular job in Bolivia?

Good luck !:)
Sorry for my english.

At first, it's nice idea, playing poker and earn money to live in a foreign country. But it's not a good living strategy if you just have one income to full up your empty pocket, especially it's a risky way.

You need at least two. The first one is the stable income. It come from your monthy salary or something like that, it's mean that you can sure that you will have some money to pay for food, house, clothing and health care in next month. It look like a strong castle will protect you against this risky life.

And when you have built your own income castle, you will have more change to discover other new lands, such as income from poker, sport betting and so on. If you success, your life will better, you can live as a king. But if your luck is not so well, you can come back your safe castle and nothing can worry you.

That's my idea.

You can work as a freelancer and work with your computer only to earn monthy salary.

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Good luck for you.

Originally posted by freelancerpoker

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Good luck for you.

Has offers like these ever been true? lol

i didnt read the other posts here, but I'll tell you what I did:

- had well payed job in UK (not super well payed though, but good enough to live a nice life)
- started playing poker in the end of February 2008 with PS' $50 bankroll
- left job on 9th of May with ~500$ bankroll (MUCH less than i was earning in my regular job) and with some saved money, moved back to where I'm from
- started to play fulltime and started to make at least 2k/month from July '08
- never though about working again (untill I got offer from PokerStrategy - but i dont work there either)

So all in all: it's doable, it's quite easy if you try hard, but you have to have a confidence! I decided to go pro before I played my first hand and before I knew anything about poker (<- not after watching some stupid TV poker show - there were other reasons to do so^^)

Good luck! (even though you dont need anything like luck)

Originally posted by opal99
i didnt read the other posts here, but I'll tell you what I did:

- had well payed job in UK (not super well payed though, but good enough to live a nice life)
- started playing poker in the end of February 2008 with PS' $50 bankroll
- left job on 9th of May with ~500$ bankroll (MUCH less than i was earning in my regular job) and with some saved money, moved back to where I'm from
- started to play fulltime and started to make at least 2k/month from July '08
- never though about working again (untill I got offer from PokerStrategy - but i dont work there either)

So all in all: it's doable, it's quite easy if you try hard, but you have to have a confidence! I decided to go pro before I played my first hand and before I knew anything about poker (<- not after watching some stupid TV poker show - there were other reasons to do so^^)

Good luck! (even though you dont need anything like luck)

OK, in your case, your income castle seemed to be poker. At at first, you STILL need a fix job untill you can get full income from poker. Right?

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Ok guys/girls,

Let's keep the advertising and spam off of our forum boards please, or we will have to take action against you.

This has and is a useful thread for the OP who has already expressed their appreciation for your views. Let's keep it on topic and helpful to our new member.

Many thanks,

Bart

Hey tjjames12 first of all i like the gutsy move and i hope you'll do well,

But like most pokerplayers i started out a losing one maybe got a few hotstreaks here and there. But overall a losing player for the first 3-4months of playing

But but after studying poker alot and recieving $50 from pokerstrategy and picking up theyre bankroll management rules i learned to gain steady proffit and i played on 2-4tables at a time (cashgame&sngs)

Since March ive been making a good living from poker, but im not sure if i intend to alot longer than Sept-Dec this year but you never know.

Anyway from my experience i'd suggest learning to multitable +6tables as fast as you can and goodluck

Hi there,

I would just want to say that where is a will, there is a way.
And if you really are willing to commit 12h/day to poker, I m sure you will have no problem earning more than u need in no time.

Good Luck;)

there are many ways to make a living with poker, also if u have just started out.

if 350$ a month allows you to live like a king, than maybe half should do the trick as well.
so if your goal is just to make like lets say these 200 a month, u can easily achieve that by playing 12 hours of microstakes cash, sng, whatever. u just need to be disciplined and work on your game.

or just by clearing any possible signup with good conditions. it seems like u have time and can grind the shit out of it, so go for it. how u make the money doesnt matter in this case. good play, volume, rakeback, bonus, ... its up to you. a combo of all these would be best obviously.

its not gonna be easy though, but hard work definitly pays off in poker. though it might not seem like that at times.

what ya doing in bolivia btw.?

Oh wow guys that's a lot of support and I really want to thank you all for the motivation and the knowledge.

@silent21

Going to write ya a PM too much to write here :-).

I was referring to the quizzes on SitNGo Wizard.

Ah okay I am going to try SNG Wizard asap. Sounds like good training opportunity.

My advice is to keep your $1200 away of poker. You will need it if your poker job plan fail/take more time than expected. $50 for the beginning is enough. If you can’t do it from $50 then just leave it.

Sure lol... sadly I need this $1200 to live ♦. This is the put-the-food-in-my-belly money and not for poker.

The first one is the stable income. It come from your monthy salary or something like that, it's mean that you can sure that you will have some money to pay for food, house, clothing and health care in next month.

Sadly this is not possible for me. I am a foreigner in a South American country... maybe I could find work as a street cleaner. These guys get paid $25 or so each month (according to my girl). So this "stable income" wouldn't even cover my hotel.

If everything goes wrong I can borrow money from friends or so :-x. It's just that trading time vs money sucks (especial if your not in US/Europe). Why should I work 10h/day to earn a low quality life and can only invest 2h/day in poker while I could speed up the process of learning poker with 12h? My savings are a stable income too I think. Just not an endless one ♦.

You can work as a freelancer and work with your computer only to earn monthy salary.

Earned big sums as a freelancer before... but it sucks it's like a real life job. Pun intended against jobs ;-).

So all in all: it's doable, it's quite easy if you try hard, but you have to have a confidence!

Thats a great word from a real pro. Yeah I think most people who tell you that you "need stable income first" just lack the confidence. OK you need some money first thats for sure but... it's like with seducing girls. There are thousands out there who think they need "to loose just 5 pounds" or "get new clothes" or "know how to make girls laugh" until they can approach one...

But thats just a lack of confidence.

Hey tjjames12 first of all i like the gutsy move and i hope you'll do well,

Thanks man - hope I never meet one of you at the tables. Just fish. A longhand NLHE with 9 fish and you for every forum member please ♠_cool:.

But like most pokerplayers i started out a losing one maybe got a few hotstreaks here and there. But overall a losing player for the first 3-4months of playing

This seems like a casual number. Almost anyone who replied in this thread claimed he got good income after 3-5 months :-). Great!

And if you really are willing to commit 12h/day to poker, I m sure you will have no problem earning more than u need in no time.

Haha yeah my girlfriend will hate me for that but still I am the one paying her drinks :-/. Ops missed dinner today over poker... seems like poker already starts to make my health bad.

if 350$ a month allows you to live like a king, than maybe half should do the trick as well.

Lets say even $200 would keep me living :-) yeah. Where the goal is the sky right?

u can easily achieve that by playing 12 hours of microstakes cash, sng, whatever. u just need to be disciplined and work on your game.

Sounds great... even better - 12 hours of microstakes each day will really improve my gameplay I think. Hard work is great as long as you don't have to do it forever ♠_biggrin:.

good play, volume, rakeback, bonus, ... its up to you. a combo of all these would be best obviously.

Sadly my current internet connection/laptop won't allow me too much volume in terms of multi tabling. But like you said I have time thats my "bonus" :-).

what ya doing in bolivia btw.?

I hated Germany so I emmigrated to South America... traveling here and there and then I lost my heart to the city of La Paz :-). Great place visit me and I can show you where to party and where to buy the cheap cocaine ♦.

Thanks,
tjjames12

hey tjjames12,

Have a look in the blog section, one that might be of interest is this one We made it! 1 year as pros!!! Poker Brothers 2010

it's from 2 brazilians who started one year ago with the goal of making it as pros and making $400/mth.

GL, use and read the forums a lot, there's a lot of good advise in it.

Hi there.

Total noob here, I've not even played poker much for fun but am going to give it a whirl and see where it takes me.

I am actually in a similar position to the OP in that I live in a country (Thailand) where it is difficult for foreigners (I'm a Brit) to find work.

Whilst looking for alternative sources of income I came across matched betting, which is a way of taking advantage of sign up bonuses at sports bookmakers. An income of 500-1000 dollars/month should be easily achievable and so perhaps that is what the OP should look into.

It is not terribly time consuming and so perhaps he can use that as an income source whilst he hones his poker skills. Just search 'matched betting' on google for loads of information and resources.

just grind rush or 24 tables and u can easily make $350 a month at 0.1/0.25+ with rb alone

I just have to point out that it does not matter what you are doing to generate a cash income it is a "job"....

Tis dream you have of not having a "real job" but still maintianing a monetary income is kind of silly.

Playing poker for 5 hours a day 5-7 days a week is alot more work than my supposed 9-5 "real job" and about the same amount of hours if not more with studying/learning/reviewing your poker to improve your skills.

Now I am not saying you should not try to earn a living through poker. Just be wary of some of the sacrifices that you have to make in order to do so....BRM takes on a whole new meaning when you are playing with your monthly income. Putting in "overtime" also takes on a new meaning when you are in a 35-50% of our bankroll downswing but you have something to pay that come up unexpectedly. Phsycologically speaking, having a bad day at the "office" usually just lasts for that day, but in poker it can last for weeks.

I hope you start a Blog so we can see how you are doing in your Poker Life.....

Originally posted by Ultifanatic
I just have to point out that it does not matter what you are doing to generate a cash income it is a "job"....

Tis dream you have of not having a "real job" but still maintianing a monetary income is kind of silly.

Playing poker for 5 hours a day 5-7 days a week is alot more work than my supposed 9-5 "real job" and about the same amount of hours if not more with studying/learning/reviewing your poker to improve your skills.

Now I am not saying you should not try to earn a living through poker. Just be wary of some of the sacrifices that you have to make in order to do so....BRM takes on a whole new meaning when you are playing with your monthly income. Putting in "overtime" also takes on a new meaning when you are in a 35-50% of our bankroll downswing but you have something to pay that come up unexpectedly. Phsycologically speaking, having a bad day at the "office" usually just lasts for that day, but in poker it can last for weeks.

I hope you start a Blog so we can see how you are doing in your Poker Life.....

+1

Having just played for 2 days he has never experienced the rollercoaster, the highs and lows of winning and losing in poker, it truly is a mental challenge.

I've only just started reading the Brazilian Bros blog and got as far as page 10. One already experienced a 70k hand downswing, that'd be enough to test many decent players psychologically, nevermind someone who has just 2 days experience and is seemingly desperate to earn a living to survive in a foreign country. 70k hands downswing would kill most inexperienced player's bankroll there and then.

Anyway, I know this is yet another negative post and I'm sure it'll help OP to be more determined to prove me wrong. Good luck!

I've seen a bunch of advices like "learn to play x tables asap", "get awesome bonus/rakeback deal", etc. Personally I think your primary goal in poker should be to become a winning player, that means cranking your winrate as high as realistically possible. This implies spending at least half of your poker time on learning, visiting coachings and posting your hands in the forum. Don't jump into the poker world expecting to make money, there will be months where you won't make any profit regardless of your skill.

Another thing is that you won't spend 12h on poker every day. Maybe the first week. After that you'll start getting bored, burned out, frustrated by losses or simply not in the mood for the monotonous poker routine. Also, take regular breaks, it's better for your blood circulation and mentally refreshing. Of course there's always tilt, and since you haven't had long downswings yet you have no idea how resistant you are to it. Don't say you don't have a problem with tilt because everyone says that until they go broke because of it.

When I quit school for poker, I had the following mentality. My worst nightmare was working 8h a day with some douches for coworkers and a cranky arrogant boss who orders me around. I was (and still am) unacceptably lazy. I wanted money, but for a minimum of effort. That's how I ended up playing poker for a miserable living. Took me about two years to get to that point, and I'm still struggling to come up with the money every month. Not to discourage you or anything, but becoming a poker pro is not a jolly rainbow road. It's not just a matter of completing a few simple steps required for profit and reap the rewards.

Originally posted by tjjames12
Great place visit me and I can show you where to party and where to buy the cheap cocaine ♦.

If it's below $10/gram I'm moving to your city tomorrow.