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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

So, after spewing a bunch of my bankroll zooming around i will give me a last try to improve my play and climb up in stakes.

I will start with two challanges... playing 10k hands NL2 on regular tables, just two tables in parallel two have more time to think and to get back confidence (hoping i will beat that limit :f_tongue:)

So starting BR:
$ 146,23

Poker is just a hobby, and due to job, family and friends i guess i will just have round about ten hours time for poker.

So lets start and see what will happen.

Thanks for reading and good luck at the tables.

Cheers
Talisker


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi Talisker74,

Best of luck in the challenge!

Originally posted by Talisker74
Poker is just a hobby, and due to job, family and friends i guess i will just have round about ten hours time for poker.

Just because it's "just" a hobby it doesn't mean you can't be good at it!

Best of luck :gl:,
VS


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Good luck. I suppose 10 hours is per week? It's still decent amount though remember to use sometime outside of tables also.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019
Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Hi guys,

thanks for reading and replies...

@ghaleon: Yes, round about ten hours a week...

@ monteCarlol: Thanks! Start is going well, but have to grind for decent sample...


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Hi guys,

what do you think to this hand?

I called preflop because i give villain this range: QQ+ and AK
if i hit a set on the flop, i will have the chance to win a big pot, because of his strong range, but open to 6bb from UTG seems to be super strong.
I hit and i guess i played quiete well...
but was a bit scared on the river, so i don`t know which betsize would be the best?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

SB: $2.06 (103 bb)
BB: $2.31 (115.5 bb)
UTG: $1.24 (62 bb)
MP: $6.44 (322 bb)
CO: $2.15 (107.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $4.02 (201 bb)

SB posts $0.01, BB posts $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 6♠: 6♦:
fold, MP raises to $0.12, fold, Hero calls $0.12, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.27, 2 players) 9♣: 6♥: 5♠:
MP checks, Hero bets $0.18, MP calls $0.18

Turn: ($0.63, 2 players) 5♣:
MP checks, Hero bets $0.44, MP raises to $0.88, Hero raises to $1.32, MP calls $0.44

River: ($3.27, 2 players) 9♥:
MP checks, Hero bets $1.54, MP calls $1.54

Results: $6.35 pot ($0.28 rake)
Final Board: 9♣: 6♥: 5♠: 5♣: 9♥:


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

I wouldn't min-3bet OTT. Either jam or just call.
The 9 OTR is not the best card, Villain can have a few 9x hands: A9s, K9s, Q9s, J9s, T9s, 99, 98s (13 combos).
But I am not sure if he would raise OTT with those combos. So I guess a big bet is fine, but it gets ugly if he x/r you.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

I like that 1/2 pot bet OTR.
Are you calling a raise?
You say "but was a bit scared on the river, so i don`t know which betsize would be the best?"

I don't like smaller bets, since they look too much like "I haz the nutz and I want a few more chips" and seem to me to get more folds than I would want.

1/2 to 2/3 seems best to me. You don't have the nuts but lots worse can call -- especially the big pairs.


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

He had AA, so better would have be to shove....


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Hi guys,

because i have to learn a lot, i guess it is time to raise up some questions....
Would be nice if i will get some answers.

How many hands are needed to give a player a color, because of his stats.
Lets say, i have a player playing 19/17 - TAG after how many hands would you mark him as TAG?

What do you guess is a good river cbet stat?

Which categories of hand marking are you choosing when making a session review?
so given are Bad Beats / Bluffs / For Review an Suckouts
do you have more? if so which ones and why

Thanks for helping!

Cheers
Talisker


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The 66 hand agree with calling or shoving turn

you can begin tagging people on 0 hands for instance they are playing 72bb's insta tag a fish,without anhy stack size or other tells id say about 50 hands but be prepared to change the colour with more info.The main adjustment you'll make is upgrading nits to tags after a few hundred hands the fish and maniacs tend to show very early with little info.And i just mark for review im going to look at themn all anyway i dont need to know if it was a bad beat or not.

gl.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by RedsYNWA
you can begin tagging people on 0 hands for instance they are playing 72bb's insta tag a fish,without anhy stack size or other tells id say about 50 hands but be prepared to change the colour with more info.

This is one of the reasons I let my stack dwindle to about 80BB if I lose a hand in the first few orbits.
If you understand playing short stacked it can help if you look like an idiot. (assuming you're not. In my case I'm not so sure).
Also, you can tag a player with a colour in only one hand if you see them do something outlandish -- but be sure to use the clients note feature to record what it was that they did.
It takes practice to play several tables and take meaningful notes.

As RedsYNWA says, be prepared to adjust your tags.


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Hi guys,

thanks for replies. To make my question more clear.
I want to know after how many hands vpip/pfr are really useful to take and give a coloured tag to the villains.
I have different colours i mark my opponents. This tags can be given after just one hand:
- green => Limper, bad player (making something really bad)
- yellow => short stack (75bb and below => hobby player or maybe weaker reg)
- blue => big stack (375bb and more => most likely to be a reg)

but to mark a player as
TAG, LAG or NIT you need stats and a decent amount of hands. But how many?
Yesterday i was playing a session and after 50 hands i had stats on one table like 8/6 and on another table 45/32...
so 50 hands aren`t enough....

And what do you think are good river cbet stats and which one`s are bad, and how to exploit best?

Cheers
Talisker


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

So first week of BR challange is over:
naked numbers:
Week 1:
starting roll: $146,23
Hands played: 3257
Profit: 22,24 $ / +2,29 $ leaderboard chests
actual roll: 170,76 $

Graph:

Stats:

Fish do still exist on NL2:
VPIP 100 at 192 hands -> i had to leave, but cacarac i want to have on my table every time

So Gl to all of you


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Nice graph!

Originally posted by Talisker74
VPIP 100 at 192 hands -> i had to leave, but cacarac i want to have on my table every time

I think his name starts with "caca" for a reason :coolface:


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

So my second week...
was playing a mixture of Limits....

The numbers:
Week 2
starting roll: $146,23
previous roll: $170,76
hands played: 3075
profit poker: $12,65
promos: $1,74
actual roll: $185,15

The Limits:

this weeks graph:

So. a lot to learn....
will see how it goes next week, will have less time, so volume might go down....


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

Hello guys,

so after loosing a bunch of money due to tilt last year, i will start again with blogging and trying to climb the stakes from ground up to...?

So not to many goals are set for this year, but some i have:
- quit zoom and play only regular tables
- playing just two regular tables -> more time, better decisions, better play
- start learning with the basics
- stick to my BRM
- make at least 15 minutes theory before starting a session

I will share the things i work on and ask for response....

So, if you have any questions will free to ask...

Cheers
Talisker
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londonsystem
Joined: 19.11.2008

Good luck with your goals!

I myself is a NL5 fish. I agree only regular tables when I'm still in NL2/NL5. Just one suggestion, though.

Do not play just "any" two tables. Try to play only on the 'easy' tables. Depending on your play style, you might lose more often either to a LAG fish or to a TAG reg. If a player on your left is giving you a lot of troubles, just leave the table and find another. When you could find easy tables, three tables are better than two. Or, you might find only one such a table, sometimes.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019
FriskyArt
Joined: 27.10.2009

That hud of yours looks very detailed _o: Anyway the green line is going into the right direction so that's nice _smile:

Good luck with the challenge!


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