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tonyozhelev
Joined: 30.03.2021

Hello pokerstrategists!

I recently re-rediscovered the joy of poker and decided to check the old pokerstrategy website and see if there were still people here with which I can share my joys and grieves (hopefully more joys). I used to be a member a long time ago when there was a .bg domain and pokerstars hadn't banned US players yet (fun times). I've been on and off of online poker for short times during my life. When I draw the line I consider myself a winning player and in 2021 I decided to approach it more seriously as a side thing that can possibly earn me some small amounts of cash.

I'm super into MTTs, but as a person with a full time job, I can't really dedicate the time to playing in them and not feel like crap the next day, cause I stayed till 4am finishing tournaments, so I decided I can play something else and splurge for the occasional MTT once in a while. The format that got my attention was Spin and Gos. I started reading about them and after playing a few I saw that there were people there that couldn't tell the difference between 27 and AA so I decided to give them a go. I even bought a Spin and Go course from another site and a license for Pocker Tracker, which really helped me improve my game. Unfortunately I had to stop after a couple of months bc I had my plate full with other obligations, but nevertheless here I am again.

Graph from spins then:

Anyways I recently felt that I finally have the time to give it another shot so here I am writing my heart out about what happened and what's to come. I deposited some $30 to pokerstars to try things around. I played a few Spin Maxes since they seemed interesting to me and left them with a lot of mixed feelings. The field is incredibly soft, however with that many short stacked players and the all in phase and the randomization of prices the variance is literally insane. Maybe they can be beaten with a huge enough volume, but I don't really have the time for it.
With that in mind I decided to go back to Spin and Gos. I know there's a lot of variance there, but I'm old now and I think I have the mental strength and discipline to survive if things start to go south, and it's definitely way less than in Spin Maxes. I added some money to my account so I have 100 buy ins for the 0,25 ones and here we go.

Goals:
Make enough money to go to an EPT and WSOP
Invest enough in stocks so that I can live off the dividends and poker money.

Realistic goals:
Since I want to join the BR challenge my target goal for the end of the year will be $600.
Play at least 600 Spin and Gos each month (150 a week).
Improve my game.
Post updates at least once a week to keep track of my progress.

What's going on so far:
The last couple of days I've been super tired so I'm way behind with the volume. Also I'm attending a wedding this weekend so probably will have some catching up to do next week. So far I've been playing one table. Tried playing two a few times, but didn't like it. Can't really focus on opponents since the format is so fast and I feel like my game is suffering.
I've been noticing that my push/fold game has a lot of room for improvement so this is definitely something I will focus on studying this month. I'm actually thinking when I manage to make an improvement in this area I might consider starting a second table when there are like 10-8BBs left for everyone and I just play push/fold. Other than that I feel like my ranges are not really that polished, so I will work on that as well. I'm currently using the free version of GTO Wizard for these stuff, but if anyone has any suggestions for free tools, please comment.
Here's my results from the first 50 tournaments I played this month. So far the 0.25s are super soft. There hasn't been any regulars I've met and I'm having a breeze. When my BR reaches $60 I will probably try to dabble in the $1s, but will go about it conservatively and go back to 0.25s if I lose more than 10 buy-ins (fall under $50).


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VisionBoard
Joined: 24.05.2024

Hello tonyozhelev!

I recently re-rediscovered the joy of poker

So nice to hear that:f_thumbsup: I want to rediscover too.

GL! :f_cool:


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AlmightyTT
Joined: 24.10.2009

Hello Tony,
Nice to see you again _thumbsup:. I see you started your blog. I wish you luck and will keep an eye on the results . Nice format to play. I wish you to quickly raise the limits. This is the best motivation you can get. As you said above: players don't differentiate between 72 and AA. I also don't have a lot of time and for that I switched from SNGs and MTTs to cash tables.


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tonyozhelev
Joined: 30.03.2021

Hello everyone who clicked on my blog!

The week has been pretty busy, unfortunately not with poker. My volume is reaaaaaaly far from the goals I set, and if I'm being honest with myself I wouldn't be able to reach my volume goal playing one table only. I will probably try to play two tables for 50-60 spins and see how that feels.

I've been pretty random about my learning bc there are just so much resources, but what I feel helped me the most is a video I found on youtube about not overplaying marginal hands. Another aspect that I'm currently looking at improving is my bet sizing. I feel like I have sizing tells (although I doubt there are many players that will exploit that at those limits) and also I don't bet enough for value.

I'm definitely overwhelmed by the so many levels of information that is available. I recently listened to a podcast about huds and it made me realize how 10 years ago my hud stats are, so this is also something I want to get more usage of in the future. I wouldn't bother with it ATM, bc I am yet to see a player with whom I played over 100 hands with so there is some meaning to the stats.

Here's my graph since the 1st. Volume is bad (35 of these are just from today), but the results are pretty decent, although I'm pretty much BE from the last 50 spins.

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DManfredi
Joined: 11.06.2024

Hey Tonyo,

Nice blog bro!

I am also playing spins. looks like you are crushing at the moment with like 100cev :)

Keep up the great work. I recently too came back to the game and was overwhelmed by how it had changed and the content out there. For me i found just breaking it down step by step and slowly digesting work, otherwise it is quite easy to get lost :)

Will follow. GLGL :)


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AlmightyTT
Joined: 24.10.2009

Hey Tony,
I don't have much knowledge about Spin n Go but I think 1 table is not enough.
As I see, you have a winning strategy for now, which is important
I feel like you too. When talking about volume. Нot enough time!


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tonyozhelev
Joined: 30.03.2021

Hello again my dear readers!

I'm officially playing multiple tables Spin and Gos. And by multiple I mean two!

The win rate has lowered a bit - I'm running at 82 cev (let's be honest it wasn't going to stay 100+ forever) however I seem to have been able to turn some profit at the spot which was losing me most money before - SB 3 way is now positive cev.

All in all I feel good playing two tables - volume has been good and I've had some profit so far, so I'll keep it up for now. Maybe will switch to one table whenever I manage to climb to $1s.

AMAZING NEWS: I've had my first 10X yesterday. UNFORTUNATELY As soon as it started I've been disconnected and it finished while I managed to reconnect... At least I got 50c for somehow finishing in second place and a reimbursement from PS for another 50c (since I've been two tabling) which is not great, but glass half full I guess...

Graph (Is there a way to change the "Spoiler" text in the spoiler button so that it looks better?)

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Current Bankroll: $31

Good luck to everyone and have fun at the tables!


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tonyozhelev
Joined: 30.03.2021

Hello table crushers!

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Last week volume has been amazing. We're at 400 and I don't see any reason I wouldn't be able to meet my monthly target of 600. Graph looks nice and results are decent.... ish. Since I started my blog I've earned the WHOPPING.... $0.50. Nevertheless cev looks ok to me and I feel like I'm improving my game. There has been some mistakes I noticed and taken into account (there are probably twice as many that I don't notice, but we won't go down that rabbit hole for the moment), and I feel like my baseline is strong for the micro Spins.

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I know that my sample is comparable to what a real grinder goes through in a day, but I decided to check my reward distribution. There's definitely room for improvement there so let's all pray to RNJesus to be kind.

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$1s expected 36 vs my 29
$1.25s expected 10 vs my 7
$2.5s expected 4 vs my single one
$0.75s are 180 vs expected 160, but I choose to ignore this _biggrin:_biggrin:

Also if you ever wonder if you should play Spin and Gos take a look at some of the _cool:MASTERMINDS_cool: that play them (speaks volumes about how good I actually am with my huge profits _ugly:).

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PokerStars - 20/40 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 12.87 BB (VPIP: 69.23, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 5.95 BB (VPIP: 85.71, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 14)
Hero (BTN): 18.67 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T♥ K♥

Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.5 BB, 2 players) 3♣ A♥ 4♥
BB checks, Hero bets 2 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Turn: (8.5 BB, 2 players) T♦
BB bets 1.95 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 1.95 BB

River: (12.4 BB, 2 players) 7♦

BB shows J♣ 3♥ (One Pair, Threes)
(Pre 33%, Flop 48%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows T♥ K♥ (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 68%, Flop 52%, Turn 91%)
Hero wins 12.4 BB

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PokerStars - 10/20 NL (3 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 22 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (BTN): 24.5 BB
SB: 28.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♣ 9♥

Hero raises to 2 BB, SB calls 1.5 BB, fold

Flop: (5 BB, 2 players) T♣ A♦ Q♦
SB checks, Hero bets 2.5 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB

Turn: (10 BB, 2 players) 7♦
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (10 BB, 2 players) 2♣
SB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, SB calls 3 BB

Hero shows A♣ 9♥ (One Pair, Aces)
(Pre 67%, Flop 80%, Turn 82%)
SB mucks 8♣ 9♣ (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 33%, Flop 20%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 16 BB


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

Who are the MASTERMINDS? Just in general? Sounds like a collective of some sorts?


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tonyozhelev
Joined: 30.03.2021

No collective, just players who call you down with 9 high on the river


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Originally posted by tonyozhelev
No collective, just players who call you down with 9 high on the river

Maybe a mis read. Could think villain thinks that he/she has a straight.


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tonyozhelev
Joined: 30.03.2021

Maybe, I just posted these hands as an example, but there are definitely other players like that. Today I got called on a 20BB 4bet shove with 46o, so who knows _grin:


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tonyozhelev
Joined: 30.03.2021

:sfishy: Today was a productive day. :sfishg:

Got a nice almost 15% boost to my roll by winning a 5x spin and also winning a 0.25 MTT (45 man) :f_drink:

I like the 0.25 45 man SNGs. The field seems soft and I can easily two table them. Would have cashed on the second one as well if I hadn't made a horrible ICM play with15bb stack, but you know... live and learn. Also with all the 3handed and HU training I have I felt like I destroyed my opponents when we were short handed and HU on the FT.

IDK if I'll be able to reach the 600 (453 ATM) spins target (I played some today, but felt like something more relaxing so I played the 45mans) I have enough time, but I will be the one taking care of the kid for most of the week since my wife has stuff to do around the city, so IDK if I'll have the energy to play at night. We'll see.

I'm planning to take a 5 tournament shot at $1s when I reach $45 in my roll. I'm honestly having some doubts about it since in terms of BR management it's a horrible decision with the variation we have in spins, but I think I'm strict enough to just play 5 tournaments and go back to 0.25s if things don't work out. The reason I want to climb the limits so quickly is that with my volume I can't get enough points for a chest and that way my rakeback is essentially 0%. This annoys me in a couple of ways.
1. I lose small amounts of money _evil:
2. I hate the chest progress resetting, after I put so many points into it :f_mad:

Anyways, wish me luck.... _cool:

p.s. Now that I think about it with this rate, it will probably take me till the end of July to get anywhere near $40... I'll mark this as patience training. Man I hope I don't bust out on those 5 $1s. I promise to go back to $0.25s if I fall below $40 (there - we have it written in stone... pardon... blog so no takesies backsies)


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tonyozhelev
Joined: 30.03.2021

Mood today is like

_cool:_cool:_cool:

Won $75 in the blogger raffle so definitely will use them to climb the limits faster. 100 buy ins on $1 should be enough if I don't run terrible. I'll still finish my 600 spins on 0.25 since I want to be disciplined and meet my goals.

Wish me luck and good luck to all who haven't won yet in the raffle!


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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

Originally posted by tonyozhelev
...p.s. Now that I think about it with this rate, it will probably take me till the end of July to get anywhere near $40... I'll mark this as patience training.

Originally posted by tonyozhelev
...Won $75 in the blogger raffle so definitely will use them to climb the limits faster...

Congrats! _drink:


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AlmightyTT
Joined: 24.10.2009

Hi Tony,
I'm always happy to see good results. Congrats!

Mood today is like

_cool: _cool: _cool:

Nice Nice!
I will add this to my playlist. Very inspiring.
See you soon. GL HF!


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AlmightyTT
Joined: 24.10.2009

Hey Tony,
I expect you to please us with good monthly results. As he did the previous weeks. And even better if you increase the limit next month.:f_cool:
I still play the song every day.:f_drink::f_cool:


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tonyozhelev
Joined: 30.03.2021

Hello fellow sharks!

Last month finished with an upswing. I managed to make a good increase to my BR (thank you PokerStrategy) and I'll start grinding the next limit.

That being said I'm kinda bummed that I didn't manage to reach my targets. I only played 520 Spins out of the desired 600 (the graph says 522, but 2 are from today). Now what this says to me is that I need to be more realistic. I'm a family man, life gets in the way.... Life sometimes screams in the other room, because we don't let him paint his face with crayons, and I can hear his mom being on the verge of her nerves.... you know you have to end this session and go help _biggrin:

As a whole I feel good with my progress. I'm getting more and more comfortable 2 tabling. Although I feel like when there's a tough situation on one I sometimes kinda ghost the other and don't think about my plays that much. A bit like autopiloting it. So far it hasn't caused me any trouble, but lets see what the future will bring.

I feel like with my attempts to raise volume I've neglected my studying a bit, so this is definitely something I will be more focused on in the next month. I will try to dedicate at least 30% of my play time to studying. IDK if I'll have a relevant metric which to measure, but I think I'm disciplined enough to make this plan stick. I want to focus on preflop charts for HU and for lower blind levels. I have some basic grasp of push and fold strategies, but I'm definitely deviating from the optimal plays (this is something I'm planning to make a report on and play around with PT to see how much I'm actually deviating just for the fun of it, and maybe I will learn something too)

I used some of my blog raffle reward to deposit in KK poker, to get some bonus money and strategy points. Now for those who don't know KK poker bonus is a hell to clear out so I've basically given up on it. You need to make $10 worth of rake to clear $1 from the bonus.... Good luck playing 0.25 spins. I have some cash back cards too that give me some cents back and maybe I'll be able to clear like a dollar or sth IDK. If I manage to get a good day for playing (kid is with the grandparents or sth) I might try to win some tickets from the spins leaderboard there. I will probably play some 0.5 tournaments too, in hopes of increasing that bankroll and moving to $1s there too. The spins there are 300 chips, so probably way more variance, but I feel like the field is also relatively weak. I'd love to hear from people who have experience with the room.

Alright LET'S TALK GOALS
I want to get that damn blue chest, so that means that I need to play 170 spins until 11th (it's possible, but honestly I don't want to get my hopes that much) maybe go for the next one, we'll see
Total Spins monthly target will be on the low side - 300 ...Anything more will be considered a bonus.
Study the free Spin charts of Team Bas Poker.
Study my sessions
Spend more time studying alltogether
Study, study, study
Play like 10 MTTs for fun, bc you can't just keep studying (this goal is optional)

Current state of my bankroll:
PS: 80.66
KK: 26.25

Total: 106.91

Graph for PS:

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Stackoffski
Joined: 08.09.2021

You make it look easy _cool:


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tonyozhelev
Joined: 30.03.2021

LET ME TALK TO YA!

I've been playing around with hand reports and filters in PT4 and open source excel like programs, and it's been really fun. I created filters to be able to distinguish hands in different positions. 3way - BB, SB, BB and also HU - SB, BB (5 filters). Then I created exports to .csv and used some simple formulas to mark hands as Suited/Offsuit, and be able to sort by Hole Cards. It's been a fun exercise, but it definitely takes a while to sift through all hands, and I have a lot more to cover yet. I managed to take a look at BU and BB3W and I want to share my findings.

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BU Notable stats
LOST:
QQ -600 for 16 hands - noticed I tend to get married to 99-QQ hands, shouldn't play too aggressively on boards with higher cards
A3 -1315 for 32 hands - I overplay low Ax hands. Charts and gto say to fold when stacks are 25BB
T6s -305 for 3 hands - IDK what I was thinking raising pre-flop
Low Kxs/Qxs hands - probably should play less, especially the 2/3/4 combos.

WON:
AJ - 2381 for 27 hands, it's just phenomenal
76 - 525 for 19 hands - Should play less low connected cards, esplecially off-suit, even though this combination is winning it barely makes up for all the small losses I have from other such hands. For example 98 and 97 are -1086 chips total.

BB3W Notable stats:
LOST:
Way too much calling with hands like 24o and 62o. These should be folded based on the charts. Charts also say I should be calling with all suited low cards when only 1 player entered and it's 16bb+. IDK how I feel about this, but will give it a go...
IMO I call too wide vs 3x raises, I should tighten my range vs 3x.
AQ -1766 variance, variance, variance. I don't think there are any sketchy spots, it's mostly AI pre-flop.
A9/K9 and lower - maybe a bit too much raising going on. I should try to follow the charts more closely and check behind more.

WON:
I haven't had my AA cracked when in BB. Total chips won - 4085

There's a lot more, but these are the most notable notes I've taken.

I'll try to wrap up the other positions in the next few days.

Probably will repeat the exercise in like a month or even more in order to have a big enough sample for comparison.

All in all my pre-flop game has a lot of room for improvement. I believe I will find much more mistakes, especially in SB3W since it's the toughest spot to play IMO.

AND THAT IS NOT AN INSULT, THAT IS JUST A FACT OF LIFE!

YEAH!

GLHF _biggrin:_biggrin:_biggrin:


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