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axelphoney
Joined: 03.10.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($55.93)
BB ($100)
Hero ($109)
UTG+1 ($105)
CO ($101)
BTN ($137)

Dealt to Hero A♦ 4♦

Hero raises to $3.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $2.50

FLOP ($7.50) 2♦ 7♠ 7♣

BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

TURN ($17.50) 2♦ 7♠ 7♣ T♣

BB checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($17.50) 2♦ 7♠ 7♣ T♣ A♠

BB checks, Hero bets $11, BB raises to $30 Hero?

villain: 21/17/2/25 (VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS) - 2.6k hands.
31% river ag freq (probably slightly lower since these stats are after I played this hand and another one I am about to post)

Fold?

I just cant see how this raise could ever be a bluff, yet there are once again very few valuehands he could do this with. Facing a UTGraise he shouldn't be doing this play with any ace but AK, unless he knows that I raise a lot of weaker aces from UTG he could ofc do it lighter, but I don't think he does.

Then there are probably some pocketpairs in his range, but I don't see why he would turn them into a bluff here as this is a card I will bet as a bluff a lot, but I dunno. Slowplayed FHs,quads are ofc in his range as well but obv a very limited amount of combos.

I ended up calling anyway and guess what he had? :)


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feels like he would chk this card knowing you'll bluff it a lot.

Which leads me to believe it's prolly for value. I can't really think of what air he gets to the river with he chk/calls 772r i mean he is unlikely to reverse float 89s or something I think but he could DEFO float some big Ax hands ATs-AQo but it seems quite weird that he would c/r those for value on the end given you could have AK.

I guess I'd fold expecting to see a 7 most of the time because most of the hands he makes it to the river with are bluff catchers on this river and its wierd he'd turn them into bluffs.


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BC1989RF
Joined: 09.04.2010

bet the turn??

as played its q close given his river AF


Board: 2♦7♠7♣ T♣ A♠
       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    34.29%  34.29%   0.00% { Ad4d }
MP3    65.71%  65.71%   0.00% { TT-77, 22, AJs+, 87s, 76s, AQo }

the more AK/AQ/AJ he peels pf AND c/r for value OTR the worse we get.
just gave him 88/99 and hed turn into a bluff.


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Originally posted by BC1989RF
the more AK/AQ/AJ he peels pf AND c/r for value OTR the worse we get.
just gave him 88/99 and hed turn into a bluff.

why would he turn the best bluff catchers into bluffs?

Agree betting the turn is prolly ftw and (even if it takes a river barrel) we should be able to get folds from 55/66/88/99 by then our range is wide on the flop ad have plenty of Tx's and ofc still all the bigger pairs.

Folding out better ACE-highs as well.


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BC1989RF
Joined: 09.04.2010

Originally posted by lilDave

Originally posted by BC1989RF
the more AK/AQ/AJ he peels pf AND c/r for value OTR the worse we get.
just gave him 88/99 and hed turn into a bluff.

why would he turn the best bluff catchers into bluffs?

44=99 from his pov. i just picked up 2 pp. We put our range faced up and an aggro villaim might use that but agree my argument might very well be too optimistic as we're gonna stab this river a lot.

Also, vs a lot of players A4s gonna be = AK here.


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Originally posted by BC1989RF
Also, vs a lot of players A4s gonna be = AK here.

that is defo true.


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