[NL20-NL50] Fr50 22

    • Evante
      Evante
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.12.2009 Posts: 833
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $38.92
      MP3:
      $28.47
      CO (Hero):
      $50.00
      BU:
      $50.00
      SB:
      $50.00
      BB:
      $50.00
      UTG2:
      $23.48
      MP1:
      $71.40


      Preflop: Hero is CO with 2, 2.
      2 folds, MP2 raises to $1.25, MP3 folds, Hero calls $1.25, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75.

      Flop: ($4) A, Q, 6 (3 players)
      BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $2.86, BB calls $2.86, MP2 folds.

      Turn: ($9.72) 8 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($9.72) 2 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $7.00, BB raises to $21.00, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $16.72.


      Villain 25/17/1.8 AF over 484 hands (reggish)
      Is my line ok? can't see any worse c/r river...
  • 8 replies
    • AchillesBG
      AchillesBG
      Gold
      Joined: 06.02.2011 Posts: 4,562
      The only hand beating you OTR, i think, it`s 66. He probably ch/f 88 OOP on this bord. QQ/AA 3bet preflop.

      If he play 66 this way, i guess he will play AQ (depend on his 3b/sqz strategy preflop) the same way. So i`m at least calling the river since there are 3 comb. 66 and 9 comb. AQ.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Evante,

      Flop: I would Checking already the flop cause you rarely going to have tons of fold equity there, especially being vs MP2 who doesn't have a full stack. :)

      As played
      River: As long he is super-passive even I doubt that I would have played much differently. I doubt that the guy overplays like that with just AQ hands, rather would assume more towards nutted hands. Especially when he doesn't have bluffs in his range. Would be useful to know here his W$SD which could tell his story also about raising the river or AF on the river.

      Best Regards.
    • Evante
      Evante
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.12.2009 Posts: 833
      sir,

      his WTSD is 22% but his wins are only 44%.

      what does these values mean?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Evante
      sir,

      his WTSD is 22% but his wins are only 44%.

      what does these values mean?
      What about AF & AFq on the river?

      Those stats mean that he is not very picky with going to showdown. For example if he had W$SD of 55 or whatsoever it could definitely mean that he rather has a made hand instead of pure bluff or a thin value-raise.
    • Evante
      Evante
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.12.2009 Posts: 833
      Sir overall 2.5 AF,
      F/T/R AF :2.77, 2.17, 2.33.

      How can these stats help me on deciding whether i am in a good position?

      I used to call people with over 5 AF but only(mostly) see a better hand.

      So confused....

      Please Advice!!!
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Evante
      Sir overall 2.5 AF,
      F/T/R AF :2.77, 2.17, 2.33.

      How can these stats help me on deciding whether i am in a good position?

      I used to call people with over 5 AF but only(mostly) see a better hand.

      So confused....

      Please Advice!!!
      AF isn't always the stat to take a look, AFq is more correct when we have rather a small sample. Which means we should actually look at both. Those stats show that the guy is rather passive and I rarely doubt that he is willing to bluff a lot there.
    • Evante
      Evante
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.12.2009 Posts: 833
      AFq?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Evante
      AFq?
      There are 2 different ones for that kind of stat:
      AF - Aggression Factors;
      AFq - Aggression Frequency.

      One determines the aggression with number as 1-3 for example, other one is with %, like AFq on flop ~40%.