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[Closed] Fl : Fr : 0.25/0.5 : Many bets on Preflop and Flop

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harleytopper
Joined: 28.09.2007

0.25/0.5 Limit Holdem
PartyPoker
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($6.52)
Hero ($15.05)
CO ($14.20)
BTN ($44.40)
SB ($11.90)
BB ($13.30)

Pre-flop: (1.4 SB, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 Q♥ Q♠
UTG calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero 4-bets, BB calls, UTG calls

Flop: 5♠ 6♣ 2♥ (12.4 SB, 3 players)
BB bets, UTG calls, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, UTG calls, Hero calls

Turn: A♣ (10.7 BB, 3 players)
BB bets, 1 fold, Hero folds

Final Pot: 11.7 BB

BB wins 11.2 BB ( won +6.7 BB )
Hero lost 3.5 BB
UTG lost 3.5 BB


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Capping the flop is an option as well here. Both should be fine.
I guess you planned to raise the turn again and as protection isn't very effective on the flop you can go for a stronger valueplay.

Let's take a look at the turn. The A is indeed one of two cards you don't want to see but does it really makes our hand that much worse?
Which hands would he 3-bet preflop? Let's assume that he is playing by our BB vs ORC Chart (It should be near the silver charts if not please let me know.). That gives him a range of: 99+, ATs+, AJo+. Capping against this range is of course correct. :)
Let's go on with the flop. His 3-bet here is changing his range a lot in my opinion. As we don't have any stats here I assume that he is not LAG so 3-betting with A-high makes no sense for him. We can remove all A-high hand. We should let AKs, AKo in as assuming that he will never 3-bet any A-high might be expensive for us. :)

Let's calculate that with Equilator (if you haven't seen this software you can get it here: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/software/6/ ):

Board: Ac 6c 5s 2h
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 46.250 % 45.000 % 2.500 % 52.500 % QsQh
Spieler 2: 53.750 % 52.500 % 2.500 % 45.000 % 99+, AKs, AKo

46% is just to much to fold it on the turn.

Now we can assume that he is indeed 3-betting with all A-high hands in his preflop range:

Board: Ac 6c 5s 2h
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 31.669 % 30.849 % 1.639 % 67.511 % QsQh
Spieler 2: 68.331 % 67.511 % 1.639 % 30.849 % 99+, ATs+, AJo+

Still way to much for folding as we get 12:1 on the turn and we win around 3 out of 10.

--> Call turn. :)


harleytopper
Joined: 28.09.2007

Nice explanation! I'm using this software time to time. Most of them is for preflop desitions. But i see only in Platinum section is article about Equity, so its must be good, and explain more about it. :)

Yep, everybody is saying about Silver chart. But i see only Bronze, Basic and Gold. Once i found interesting chart in forums, that was called old_chart in adress bar, maybe it is this one.


I guess the silver chart is the new bronze one. It's a bit confusing but I think the BB defend is in there too. :)