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[NL2-NL10] nl10 55 bu

    • malcolmlinco
      Joined: 25.08.2010 Posts: 239
      Microgaming - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      SB: €14.43 (VPIP: 25.37, PFR: 18.76, 3Bet Preflop: 7.38, Hands: 764)
      BB: €9.00 55/42/18; AF 14; wtsd 17; 32 hands
      UTG: €11.77 (VPIP: 18.33, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 5.77, Hands: 123)
      MP: €11.56 (VPIP: 26.85, PFR: 10.07, 3Bet Preflop: 1.54, Hands: 152)
      CO: €11.99 (VPIP: 21.85, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 6.81, Hands: 614)
      Hero (BTN): €10.00

      SB posts SB €0.05, BB posts BB €0.10

      Pre Flop: (pot: €0.15) Hero has 5:club: 5:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to €0.30, SB calls €0.25, BB calls €0.20

      Flop: (€0.90, 3 players) 6:club: 2:club: 3:club:
      SB bets €0.45, BB calls €0.45, Hero raises to €1.55, fold, BB raises to €8.70 and is all-in, Hero calls €7.15

      Turn: (€18.75, 2 players) A:heart:

      River: (€18.75, 2 players) T:heart:

      I want to know if this is bad call, high variance move or ok move.
      My justification for the call is that as he called the flop donk then he doesn't have made hand and is drawing.

      Tried to construct his shoving range:

      Board: 6:club: 3:club: 2:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    57.98%  57.48%   0.51% { 5s5c }
      MP3    42.02%  41.51%   0.51% { 88-22, ATs+, A6s, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, 63s, A6o, AcKd, AcKh, AcKs, AcQd, AcQh, AcQs, AcJd, AcJh, AcJs, AcTd, AcTh, AcTs, Ac9d, Ac9h, Ac9s, Ac8d, Ac8h, Ac8s, Ac7d, Ac7h, Ac7s, Ac5d, Ac5h, Ac5s, Ac4d, Ac4h, Ac4s, Ac3d, Ac3h, Ac3s, Ac2d, Ac2h, Ac2s, KcQd, KcQh, KcQs, KcJd, KcJh, KcJs, KcTd, KcTh, KcTs, Kc9d, Kc9h, Kc9s, Kc8d, Kc8h, Kc8s, Kc7d, Kc7h, Kc7s, QcJd, QcJh, QcJs, QcTd, QcTh, QcTs, Qc9d, Qc9h, Qc9s, Qc8d, Qc8h, Qc8s, JcTd, JcTh, JcTs, Jc9d, Jc9h, Jc9s, Jc8d, Jc8h, Jc8s }

      To me it seems high variance and i would be more happy by shoving by myself.
  • 1 reply
    • kymupa
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364

      Interesting spot we have here.

      First of all preflop is quite an easy raise.

      On the flop, against a donk and a call, what are you trying to achieve with raising here? How are you going to proceed on the turn if they call and the flush hits, or Ts hits?
      Once BB shoves though we have quite an easy fold here. If we take a look at his range, you gave him hands like AK/AQ (do you think he flats those preflop?), also hands like 63s/K8o that are almost always folding preflop, and hands like ATs which you might haven't noticed but it includes AhTh as well, and this is just nonsense to shove this hand here.

      Also, he isn't really going broke with a hand like Qc8x/Jctx or so and basically we are crushed against his range.

      I would recommend you, when you try to build up the opponent's range without much information, to build it based on what would you do if you were in his shoes rather than just adding some random hands. Many players have this very common mistake to just add some hands that they would love villain to play this way with (but they rarely seem to do so) just to make their move +EV.