Rutjumping, poker and the unified paddock theory. Hopefully my last mid-life crisis...

    • Hamishk
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      Hi,
      I've just jumped the ditch (aka the Tasman sea) and moved back to Auckland from Sydney.

      A friend of mine terms what I've done in the past as rut jumping (that episode of rut jumping occurred when I jumped from one profession to another and throwing in a move from Auckland to Sydney at the same time).

      So I'm thinking I've just jumped from a rut in Sydney and have yet to establish a rut in Auckland. (Somewhere in the past I've seen a rut referred to as a grave with the end kicked out...).

      The options when looking at whether you should jump ruts seem to be:

      1) staying in your rut and putting up with it
      2) wall papering your rut to make it more enjoyable to live in. An option I've been told about, if you have a mid-life crisis which is causing you to be unhappy with your rut, is to use the "shiny red convertible" wall-paper, or the optional "younger mistress" model of wall-paper. (Both options were put up for my consideration by the same friend who has termed my activity as rut-jumping - as an aside he settled on his 2012 new years resolution in June 2012. His resolution for 2012 was to get a mistress. Mission Unaccomplished so far.)
      3) popping your head up above your rut and checking out whether the grass is greener in another rut, and deliberately looking at slum-ruts to make yourself feel better about your own rut, and then choosing to stay where you are.
      4) Jumping out of your rut and starting anew - either in a new location or a new career or whatever

      My main reason for jumping out of my Sydney rut is to have more time with my 15 and 17 year old sons... I've been missing them over the past couple of years and not seeing nearly enough of them so have taken a punt and jumped....

      Seeing this is a poker site guess I'd better comment on my poker history.

      Started in May 2012 at pokerstars. Mainly as a recreational activity at night after work. However, I seem to have uncovered an addictive element to my personality and I've been playing (and losing - sorry - I mean investing in my poker education) pretty much ever since. I viewed the $'s lost as being justified though as the cost for the poker wallpaper was considerably less than that for the "shiny red convertible" and "the younger mistress" brands...

      Briefly tried 888 and, mainly for reasons of familiarity, most of my play is at pokerstars playing in low stake tournaments - with a recent move to low stakes SNG tournaments.

      Category at the moment would be a fish with Shark Envy. BTW there does not appear to be a suitable icon for that category. If there was an icon for a fish with a walking stick or an icon for an elderly, geriatric shark who mistakenly thinks he can mix it with the sleek, shiny, younger sharks, then I would have chosen one of those.

      While I've just jumped ruts, this new rut has yet to have a job associated with it. So I'm a guessing I'll be spending a fair chunk of time online until I land a job.

      I discovered this site last week and pretty much the first place I landed was in jbpatzer's blog. With the title of his blog referring to a mid-life crisis, paradoxically, he sounds as though he has a pretty good time. I would like to think this jump to Auckland is yet another in a series of mid-life crisis's (sp?)... Coz that wuld mean I was still in mid-life.... Yet... If you think you have roughly 75 years then I've broken it out in the past as:

      Young: 0-24
      Middle-Aged: 25-49
      Old: 50-75

      I mainly worked it out that way many years ago to wind up my ex-wife's parents... Alas I now find that, by that definition I am well and truely old. ;(

      Based on jppatzer's log, I am assuming I would be in the geriatric class of poker player. :(

      [edit starts] Somehow I managed to save the post without conscious intervention, so lets continue on and ignore that senior moment...

      I tip my imaginary hat to jbpatzer. I gained considerable amusement and enjoyment from his blog. I even managed to learn a few poker related points.

      Sadly, it appears that while I have played around 200,000+ hands, I get the sense I am still well and truely in the noobie category. Certainly, with respect to the other aspects of my poker education, such as understanding what the various statistics mean, and how to get to grips with the information being delivered by the pokertracker HUD, I am just a baby fish swimming with the sharks. (I've just downloaded the HEM2 software to try out as pokertracker is not placing the HUD correctly for 6-max SNG Tournaments at pokerstars which is a tad annoying - If anyone could point me in the direction of a "basic HUD statistics for dummies" and "advanced HUD statistics for dullards", I would be most grateful...)

      While i enjoy poker as a recreational activity, I'm a guessing this is going to continue to be a fiscal drain unless I spend some serious time away from the poker sites studying the math and theory. As a serious procrastitasker, I somehow doubt that I will manage to do that unless I give my self a good talking to and a serious amount of finger-wagging in the mirror. Although with being able to read ebooks on smartphones and tablets, I may be able to do that in scenarios where I have access to an ebook but am unable to spend time playing poker.

      Ok. that is enough for an introduction. Time to have a biological break.

      (and yes, I know the title mentions the Unified Paddock Theory. That will have to wait to another post.)
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    • DrDunne
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      Hi Hamishk! And wow, what an introduction. Welcome to PS! Don’t worry too much about your shark envy – I’m sure being around here for a while will give you all the theory and maths you need. That said, it would be very useful to have your status upgraded! Since at the moment you are a basic member, this means you have very limited access to the learning material this site offers. So if you want to upgrade to bronze+ status there are some things you’ll need to know…

      :diamond: You could play tracked to one of our partner rooms which are listed here - be sure to follow the instructions really carefully when you do this. Unfortunately since you already play at stars it will be impossible to retrack you there :(

      :diamond: If you're happy at pokerstars and don't want to switch and make any deposits, you could check out our free poker money offers here. In short, you get $10 for free when you sign up to one of those rooms. You'll instantly get bronze status for that, and once you are bronze you'll never lose it :] . All you have to do is pass the quiz, verify that you are who you say you are, and then pick what room you want your money at.

      :diamond: And if you just want to upgrade instantly you could just buy a status from this page


      If you'd like to read an overview of how the points system works, then check out this page. I hope that helps you out a bit with the way this site works.



      About the stats it really depends on your game type that you play. I play cash games and so I can't really speak much for tourneys, however I'll say that the basic stats will still be very important. These are most likely going to include:

      VPIP: % time a player has Voluntarily Put Money Into the Pot (raises and limps included)

      PFR: % time a player has made a PreFlop Raise

      3Bet: % time a player has reraised preflop. A 3bet looks like this: (blinds posted) player 1 raises, player 2 reraises. -- that reraise is the 3bet.

      AF: Aggression Factor. Probably not very essential since it takes a while to converge. I don't really like it myself, but it is calculated like this: AF = (Total Bets) + (Total Raises) / (Total Calls)

      CBetF: % time a player makes a continuation bet on the flop as the preflop raiser.

      WTSD: % time a player has went to showdown. it's not an important stat but i like to see if people are calling down a lot.

      It can get pretty detailed so if you want more info just create a new thread and I'm sure someone will be about to help. HUD stats seem complicated at first, but really after a while you'll get used to what stats look like and you'll start to spot things that you can use in game - you just need to jump into it. If you are somewhat new to poker theory I don't think you can go wrong by not even using them and focusing on your game and the basics first before you look at your opponents' games. That said, if you want to use them I'd recommend just using VPIP, PFR and maybe AF to get a feel of whether someone is aggressive or passive. I'm pretty sure in a tournament you will rarely get a huge sample on most players for a lot of stats to gain any meaning, but VPIP and PFR definitely converge relatively quickly.

      Anyways, looking forward to seeing you about the forums. GL at the tables!

      Lewis.
    • Hamishk
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      [quote]Originally posted by DrDunne


      :diamond: If you're happy at pokerstars and don't want to switch and make any deposits,...
      /quote]

      To tell the truth I'll probably not chase those offers too hard. Just had a guy come to the door and ask about our Electricity company and whether I was happy with it.

      I said "I don't know what it is and I don't care. The decision has been made and I don't want to revisit it thanks very much."

      Boils down to having a set amount of work that the old brain can do and having to spend time on optimizing choices that have already been made is just something I don't need. After i found out about the costs associated with Optimising Vs Satisficing I decided that where it was appropriate I would deliberately choose the Time boxed approach to decision making - That is, gather some data. Then make a decision. Most of the time the time saved from getting the most optimal decision is time you could have spent doing other things...

      Hence I don't really want to go tripping around other sites just now. Got enough to learn with out learning the layout of new poker rooms etc.
      you could check out our free poker money offers here. In short, you get $10 for free when you sign up to one of those rooms. You'll instantly get bronze status for that, and once you are bronze you'll never lose it :] . All you have to do is pass the quiz, verify that you are who you say you are, and then pick what room you want your money at.
      Originally posted by DrDunne

      About the stats it really depends on your game type that you play. I play cash games and so I can't really speak much for tourneys, however I'll say that the basic stats will still be very important. These are most likely going to include.

      VPIP: % time a player has Voluntarily Put Money Into the Pot (raises and limps included)

      PFR: % time a player has made a PreFlop Raise

      3Bet: % time a player has reraised preflop. A 3bet looks like this: (blinds posted) player 1 raises, player 2 reraises. -- that reraise is the 3bet.

      AF: Aggression Factor. Probably not very essential since it takes a while to converge. I don't really like it myself, but it is calculated like this: AF = (Total Bets) + (Total Raises) / (Total Calls)

      CBetF: % time a player makes a continuation bet on the flop as the preflop raiser.

      WTSD: % time a player has went to showdown. it's not an important stat but i like to see if people are calling down a lot.

      ...
      Lewis.
      Thanks for that. I've found a description of a lot of the stats within Poker Tracker. It was hidden away but after asking on their forum they uncloaked the stealth information on stats which had been hidden within the pokertracker software. It is a good reference. They have chosen to move from having the information cloaked in secrecy and have updated their quick start guide to give you a pointer to where the stats are and the relevant descriptions. Now the HUD guides are a bit easier to interpret.

      It looks like Leak Tracker is a useful tool for cash players but I'm not sure that it is useful for Tournament players. Will have to see whether that is a toy I want in my cot and whether it may be useful or will just be a convenient toy to throw out of the cot when I go on tilt.

      What i want to understand is what strategies to adopt with differing statistical profiles. And whether I can understand what other people may be deciding as a strategy against me based on the statistics that I see against my play.

      For example, I found a [Link removed by HollyMichelle - Please do not link to other affiliates] given by [xxxxx] on how they approached different players based on the stats for that player.

      So I'd like to build up a picture in my mind on what the different stats may mean so i can then, in my imaginary poker world, apply different strategies based on the stats I see for that player. (yeah....right!)



      At the moment most of the description of the stats is in mind-numbingly dull text. Have started a mind map based on the text in trikkur's post mentioned above. (And to be fair to Trikkur, his is the best I've come across to this point. From my perspective stats have always been a bit of a dull topic. And now I find I have to cuddle up to a fair few statistical concepts to become a better poker player. There is probably a word for that but as I'm up past my bedtime and the brain is a bit foggy I'm not going to try too hard to use the right word when about 20 bazillion words will do.

      I started creating a mind mapfrom trikkur's page...


      I would imbed the image but have not been able to make it happen...



      PS. And YAWTTL (Yet Another Wretched Thing To Learn!). Have to learn how to partially quote within this editor...

      Don't like the full quotation when I want to reply to bits and pieces of your reply. And have the replies interspersed to your original material. Have you a guide to the way I can make that happen rather than quoting the entire thing? Tried to make it happen and gave up....
    • UPAY4DINNER
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      Hey Hamishk,

      I've had to edit a little of your above post. I've removed your link as it leads to another poker affiliate. For obvious reasons this is not allowed here on our website :)

      Regarding your image - you need to use the "forum code link" instead of the direct link and then the IMG tags should work :)

      EDIT: Regarding quoting you'll have to edit out the quote as you wish. If you want to take out a certain part then you'll have to do this manually.

      Kind regards and good to have you on board here at PokerStrategy,

      Gary
    • jbpatzer
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      Can a moderator please move this thread to the blogging session and tell Hamish that he's banned unless he starts a blog? I think you'll find that PS rules clearly state that anybody aged over 45 has to start a blog. You know it makes sense.
    • DrDunne
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      Originally posted by jbpatzer
      Can a moderator please move this thread to the blogging session and tell Hamish that he's banned unless he starts a blog? I think you'll find that PS rules clearly state that anybody aged over 45 has to start a blog. You know it makes sense.
      lol will wait around to see what Hamish says about it and if he wants to turn it into a blog i'll move it and he can start writing some more awesomeness :D
    • UPAY4DINNER
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      Originally posted by jbpatzer
      Can a moderator......
      Is it coz I is red? (emo)
    • jbpatzer
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      Originally posted by HollyMichelle
      Originally posted by jbpatzer
      Can a moderator......
      Is it coz I is red? (emo)
      I'm sure you have better things to do now you're a big cheese.
    • Hamishk
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      Originally posted by DrDunne
      Originally posted by jbpatzer
      Can a moderator please move this thread to the blogging session and tell Hamish that he's banned unless he starts a blog? I think you'll find that PS rules clearly state that anybody aged over 45 has to start a blog. You know it makes sense.
      lol will wait around to see what Hamish says about it and if he wants to turn it into a blog i'll move it and he can start writing some more awesomeness :D
      Okie dokie. I'll have a crack at this blogging lark. If you can be so kind as to move this to the blogging area I'll have a look there.
    • mineriva
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      welcome to blogging.

      btw I believe it is my duty to warn you that you have falling into the wrong crowd.
    • Hamishk
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      Originally posted by mineriva
      welcome to blogging.

      Thank you.

      Originally posted by mineriva

      btw I believe it is my duty to warn you that you have falling into the wrong crowd.
      What sort of "wrong crowd" has maths professors and people like yourself in?... :f_eek: Hopefully time zone separation and geographical distance will lessen the chance for lasting harm.
    • UPAY4DINNER
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      Hurray!

      Welcome to blogging!
    • thazar
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      subscribed ;)

      Welcome and good luck at the tables

      EDIT: and sorted your image :s_cool:
    • EmanuelC16
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      Originally posted by Hamishk
      Originally posted by mineriva
      welcome to blogging.

      Thank you.

      Originally posted by mineriva

      btw I believe it is my duty to warn you that you have falling into the wrong crowd.
      What sort of "wrong crowd" has maths professors and people like yourself in?... :f_eek: Hopefully time zone separation and geographical distance will lessen the chance for lasting harm.
      Heeellooooo!! :s_biggrin:
    • mineriva
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      Originally posted by EmanuelC16
      Originally posted by Hamishk
      Originally posted by mineriva
      welcome to blogging.

      Thank you.

      Originally posted by mineriva

      btw I believe it is my duty to warn you that you have falling into the wrong crowd.
      What sort of "wrong crowd" has maths professors and people like yourself in?... :f_eek: Hopefully time zone separation and geographical distance will lessen the chance for lasting harm.
      Heeellooooo!! :s_biggrin:
      dont mind manu we tollerate him untill JB wins the match.
    • Hamishk
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      Today I intend to toodle off to the local Casino here in Auckland and try my hand at a Tournament. Playing poker live will be a brand new experience for me. The Casino's website tells me that there is a NZD $50/10 Tournament scheduled for tonight.

      To get myself ready for the live experience I've been watching some EPT videos over the course of the last week and reviewed the Appendix titled "Tells" from "The Raiser's Edge".

      I pondered on whether to turn up with my scruffy haircut, last cut had been about mid-March is my guess, and decided I would give my self a trim. My last hair cut had been a self-administered #3 all over.

      So out with the hair-cut kit, pondering on whether I would be playing as poorly as I had been in today's $4.50 MTT session I started up the razor and laid waste to a section of vigorous, upstanding hair running from just off mid-line straight back. My first thought was...."That doesn't look like a #3...".... Look down at the buzzing, fixture less hair clippers and wonder what my kiddies will say. Well that issue has been resolved for #1 son. Apparently the term retard applies to this sort of self administered hair cut. If you have ever seen those pictures where someone sits down in a barber's chair and the razor takes off a good section of their hair while they are looking in the mirror then that is what I saw played out today. And as I had started more or less in the middle I couldn't even adjust it to a stupid old person's mohawk!!

      So now I have to decide what I tell people from outside the family is the reason for my newly found chrome dome.

      a) I've always wanted to know what my skull looked like and, while I am out of work, decided to find out.
      b) I have cancer. (Probably in too poor a taste, but, depending on relationship might be worth a crack)
      c) The real story. But embellished so I don't look like such a complete twat. (Hard I know, but it would be nice.... Somehow I think the complete twat part will be self evident)
      d) As I am out of work and have psoriasis on my scalp I have decided to get all the hair off to get some sun on my head. (Psoriasis of the scalp is true... Less believable is the sun on the head. Its a cold, wet winter here in Auckland...)

      Reminds me of the time about 10 years ago when I went to work a day after I had been given a hair cut by my ex. I mentioned to my colleagues that I was in a really crap mood that day. One of them asked me whether the crap mood was because I had just had a crap haircut...

      Not sure whether the newly acquired baldness will help me run good or not. And will ponder on whether to wear a beanie to the casino or not. (It is winter and I am bald...)
    • Hamishk
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      My ex has now seen it and tells me the back of my head is covered with psoriasis. Giving an impression much like Karposi's sarcoma she tells me. Should be a treat for whoever I sit down next to tonight.... :f_cry:

























      Guess it is a beanie for me tonight
    • Hamishk
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      ho-hum - first live experience at a Casino and it appears I am just as big a fish at a live venue as I am online.

      Tournament had about 20 players - and with a no hat policy I didn't get to wear my beanie. On the positive side I did get to Final Table, but as there were only two tables...and I only lasted one hand on the FT. On the negative side, my secret hope that my accidental baldness would result in superhuman poker skills or run good was dashed. :f_cry: Having gone bald doesn't seem to have had any effect on my results at poker. Still have the same amount of run bad and fishy play as ever


      I now have about a weeks worth of growth on my dome and I need to make a decision this weekend as to whether to stay bald or let it grow. I've just about got used to seeing a bald head when I catch a glimpse of my reflection in the mirror so it may be that I will go with the baldness. The deciding factor, I believe, will be how long it takes to shave my head on a semi-weekly basis. And whether I can live with the fact that my ears and eye brows will be the hairiest part of my head. That is a fairly mundane decision and I am struggling to believe I just wrote that...

      In a non-poker related arena of my life, #2 son (15yo) has been proving to be a challenge at school. We are toodling off to school today for a chat with his Japanese teacher. She is concerned with his behavior when she asks him to do perfectly reasonable things. Apparently he is kicking things and throwing objects when asked to do assignments in class....

      This comes about 3 weeks after we had to toodle up to school to have a chat with the school counselor about similar behavior in his Drama class. (He has been having extra-curricular drama lessons for about 5 years and it would be fair to say that Drama is a passion of his.... Unfortunately, being a Drama Queen is not where we hoped his passion would take him). It seems he thought that drama at school should be all drama performance and zero academic. And didn't twig to the concept that the price of entry to the performance aspect at school, was doing the minimal required academically.

      So after a "restorative" meeting chaired by the counselor between the drama teacher and #2 son, #2 son managed to suck eggs in an acceptable enough way to get back into Drama classes....

      He has managed to play the "procrastinate until they give up" game very well at home and, my guess is, that he has taken that game to school. And when it hasn't worked has escalated with some grumpy behavior.

      Add in to the mix for #2 son chronic headaches earlier in the year with a newly developed tic disorder and we are not sure on how to deal with his mid-teen issues. There is a great web site for kiddies with Tic disorders I've stumbled across which has been of some help but it looks like we are going to have to be supportive while keeping some boundaries in place for him to bump into.
    • Hamishk
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      The visit with the Japanese teacher went surprisingly well. Her approach was from a position of concern that #2 son was stressed out and not coping and wanting to understand whether there was anything that could be done.

      Long story short, we have a plan that may help #2 son cope with the demands of the Japanese class. He will be allowed to use his laptop for both developing English drafts and then also be allowed to use the laptop for entering the Japanese version. Few other steps will be taken as well but looks promising.

      In Poker related news there has been some run bad with AA. Last two hands I've had with AA have been cracked this morning. The one that annoyed me was the one with two limpers in MP, I had AA in SB and 3bet to 5BB. MP went all in. I followed and he had pocket 5s which turned into a straight.

      On the positive side, in a hand to remember, I had KhQh and board showed AhJh3d3s and turn gave 10h

      Multi-tabling and all I missed the straight and was a bit concerned about a full house when I check-raised all-in.

      Wasn't until I saw the chat window I realized I had a Royal Flush. First time for everything they say. Now I just have to have Royal Flushs in Spades, Diamonds and Clubs to make the full set. :f_biggrin:
    • NakiMan
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      Welcome from another Kiwi.

      I have to disagree with your ideas that:

      "Young: 0-24
      Middle-Aged: 25-49
      Old: 50-75

      I mainly worked it out that way many years ago to wind up my ex-wife's parents... Alas I now find that, by that definition I am well and truely old."

      You are only old if you feel old!!! :f_cool:

      Poker adds to my super, that could give you an idea of my minimum age!!!

      Good to see you here and will follow your blog.

      Naki