SH TT, Turn Set in 3bet Pot

Well, there are better hands possible, but he can have weaker too... Call and make a note.

I cannot fold here OTR too. What is your equity approximately?

There's a room to fold

If we are to fold then better xc.

Call. vs unknown
- you have 45% equity vs. AJo, KQo, KJs.
- if you add KQs and JJ you still have 34%, just the right odds as well

Originally posted by bigdog63
Call. vs unknown
- you have 45% equity vs. AJo, KQo, KJs.
- if you add KQs and JJ you still have 34%, just the right odds as well

Do you think he will have KJs?

You're right. slipped in there by mistake. anyhow, without it you have 36%

Our hand is good fo ra call.

We need 27% equity to justify the call. If Villain is playing like this only with value hands like AA, AJs, ATs, KQs, JJ then we only get 23% and if Villain has KQo in his range its getting even worse. Buf if Villain sometimes is bluffing its a save call imo.

We should always include some bluffs.

Yes, looks fine to me then.

Seems a bit odd that villain would show up here with KQs or KQo since he has alot of incentive to bet those OTF and less incentive to call with them on a board without clean outs . I gave vilain this range JJ,KdQd,KhQh,AdJd,AdJc,AhJc,AsJc,AcJd,AcJh,AcJs,KdQh,KdQs,KhQd,KhQs,KsQd,KsQh and it comes out at 31.25%

I find it difficult to assign him any pure bluffs as those would be a hand like QQ-KK that he got frustrated with or missed club/spade draws which i think would have been bet OTF or raised OTT maybe ?

This is my take on this but if ppl find my reasoning wrong od let me know

I don't think villain has KQ.

He could be slowplaying AA or have hit his set on the river. I don't think he would 3-bet 88 or 22 pre-flop, so we can eliminate a lower set. I think Ax hands would have bet the flop.

It's difficult to put him on any hand worse than hero's, but considering some Ax of clubs on his range that he would bluff with, I think it's very close between calling and folding, if we give villain only a few bluffs, than its closer to a fold than calling.

I think I would have called, but analyzing the hand here, I think it would be better to fold.

Originally posted by bigdog63
Call. vs unknown
- you have 45% equity vs. AJo, KQo, KJs.
- if you add KQs and JJ you still have 34%, just the right odds as well

Sorry, equity calculations of this kind are kind of useless. Do you, for example, expect that villain calls on turn with 100% of his gutshot KQo getting 3.35:2 in pot odds? I'd love to play him. AJ and JJ are certainly in his range. But not all AJ should be counted (what worse could call a river raise)?

I still vote for a call. We are capped at TTT. You could fold 888 and worse if you want.

Before betting river, consider what you do against a raise. If you fold, then it is better to check-call (because you are nearly capped).