A3s third bar in 3b pot OOP on board with many draws completed?

Why do you bet turn? I would x/f turn.

Cbet on the flop is very small, you have to make it 3/4 of the pot to make it hard to call for your opponent. You 3 bet PF, so you seem very strong, cbet is necessity, but it can´t be below 1/2 of the pot and even 1/2 of the pot is small imo. If he calls, just give up.

Why would you 3barrel here?
3betting pre flop is ok.
On the flop you could skip cbet because you have nothing and this board doesn't hit your 3bet range that hard in general. Instead it hits your villains rage harder. What comes to the cbet size, this is quite small.. 1/2 should do it, 3/4 is too big in 3bet pots.
I would not bet turn because you didn't improve.

3bettin pre flop is +EV move. You bluffed pre flop and when it didn't work you can just give up. Don't turn your profitable pre flop move into a -EV post flop play.

Why do you bet turn? I would x/f turn.

I would not bet turn because you didn't improve.

I improved to GS on turn. I understand it is weak one, but decided its enough, because I wanted to put pressure.

Cbet on the flop is very small, you have to make it 3/4 of the pot to make it hard to call for your opponent.

I have heard that in 3b pots on dry boards we should cbet 1/3. And this board is relatively dry. There are few draws, but no FD. Probably he is has set , just calls cbet because it is dry.

On the flop you could skip cbet because you have nothing and this board doesn't hit your 3bet range that hard in general. Instead it hits your villains rage harder. What comes to the cbet size, this is quite small.. 1/2 should do it, 3/4 is too big in 3bet pots.

I cbet because I have backdoor nut FD. And this board is good for overpairs, T9s, JTs, 76s, 54s which I rep. Hard for me to believe that it is bad to cbet bd nut FD.

Yea cbetting the flop is not that bad but it would be a lot better in single raised pot. Villain called your 3bet and with a small cbet on this flop you might not have that much fold equity. You bluffed pre so I don't think you should be pumping the pot and chasing a backdoor draw. Turn bet is definitely too much.

By cbetting like this you are not repping much anything except your whole 3betting range. Villain doesn't think OTF that you did bluff 3bet and now you have some kind of weak hit or draw. He thinks you have overpairs, broadways, weak hits and draws and also some combos of total air. And it is quite likely that villain has what you think you are repping

I found where I learned to cbet 1/3 in 3bet pots:

https://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=2272367#post2272367

it was in Lemon coahcing. Maybe I did not understnad everythign well, and maybe on this board it should be bigger.

There are some differences.
1. in that example hero has TPTK and board is dry so we don't need to protect and we want villain to call.
2. That was a squeezed pot so it was already huge and cbetting 1/3 was already 17bb and on this pot it is only 6bb.

So doing the same thing here means that it is easier for villain to call but in fact we do not want him to call.

You cannot cbet this flop:
1. The board hits villain's range better.
2. Board is not dry and you do not have much FE.
3. You 3b as a bluff and there is no need to invest more...

I do not like the idea to turn a +EV preflop bluff into a Huge -EV 3 barrel bluff. What hands that called you on flop will fold this turn?

I do not like the idea to turn a +EV preflop bluff into a Huge -EV 3 barrel bluff. What hands that called you on flop will fold this turn?

AK, AQ if he called flop with this. AJ probably folds flop.

Board is not dry

I do not understand - why you do not call it dry this time. Or what is dry/wet board definition? From the other hands discussisons I understood that wet is when there are FDs and straightdraws. There is no flushdraw, so I thought it is dry.

I doubt villain will continue calling with AK and AQ since he has only 6 outs and 1 card to come. And hero has some hard hits here so those might not even be his outs..

We have fought a lot about what is the definition of a dry flop. Because this flop doesn't have flush draws and it is quite low I would say it is semi wet, but it is connected. From these positions BTN has some suited connectors that hit this flop.

If the board was T♠:6♦:3♣: it would be dry and if it was 7♦:T♥:J♥: it would be wet but this falls in between I think.

Board is wet not because of the flush possibility but for the connectivity of the board. 77-JJ plus SC between 7 and Q can connect with this board and not fold.

I bet the Nut Flush backdoor draw of course, otherwise what is the purpose of playing this hand anyway??

1/3 pot c-bet on 3-bet pots is correct.

Turn is check/fold of course.

Do you think 1/3 pot cbet is correct on every 3bet pot or are you saying this because of that LemOn's post? That doesn't apply in this pot.
He said that we can bet 1/3 there because 1. our hand doesn't need protection because the flop is dry 2. the pot is already huge 3. we can still get it in OTR
In this pot we don't have any kind of hand, board is more wet, pot is not big, we can't get it in OTR this way if we hit.

Standard line. Just confirming that to speedfanat1c.

I see your objections to points 1,2,3.

I still want to c-bet here, I do not want to fold this hand to a BTN bet just now.

I´ve read in one article, that your cbet should be 2/3 of the pot (then giving up). This is the article http://www.thepokerbank.com/strategy/plays/3bet/
What do you think guys?
This is what is there written:
What to do on the flop if you are called?

If you miss the flop, make a continuation bet of about 2/3 the size of the pot. Simple as that.

Here:

c-bet raised pot 2/3 pot
c-bet 3bet pot 1/2 pot
c-bet 4bet pot 1/3 pot

If you think about it, makes a lot of sense.

What I´m afraid of is, aren´t we making cbet easy to call, when it´s just 1/2 of the pot? (at micro/low stakes)

The idea behind those sizings is that if villain calls the pot will be big enough to put him AI by the river.

As nitrol said the idea behind cbetting smaller on 3bet pots is that the pot is already bigger and you can get it in by the river with a smaller cbet. We can do this especially when we have a hit on the board and the board is not very wet.

One thing that is good to keep in mind when reading old articles is that the game has changed a bit from the days when Doyle Brunson was still young.