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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

WHEN: MONDAYS 20:00-21:30 CET
WHERE: TWITCH.TV/POKERSTRATEGYDOTCOM
WHAT: What you see is what you get! Each week we will focus on one Common beginner mistake.
Expect a short presentation with examples before we jump right into practice at the microstakes tables.
SCHEDULE:

WEEK1: Misjudging how strong our hands are - Video
You'll learn about things like overplaying top pair hands and calling down when we're never good

WEEK2: Going too fancy - Video
Trapping like Phil Hellmuth? Running crazy bluffs even The Joker would be proud of?

WEEK3: Not recognising importance of position - Video
Not using your button well? Raising too much under the gun? That but a but also postflop play in different positions is what we will focus on in our last week


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imgoingtomirage
Joined: 03.07.2010

Who's in for some free leaks fixing? :f_cool:


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metalmonkey80
Joined: 15.08.2013
Chaco2017
Joined: 24.11.2016

cuantas horas nos lleva pokerstrategy , ha costarica ? para saber mas aque hora bien es el entrenamiento


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imgoingtomirage
Joined: 03.07.2010

Hi Chaco2017.

It's a 7h difference, so the coaching will be live at 1pm your time.

Write in English next time, please :f_drink:

Cheers!


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royalflush1996
Joined: 03.11.2016

Sounds very good! I am up for it!


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

starting in 5 minutes at TWITCH.TV/POKERSTRATEGYDOTCOM boys and girls!


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $21.97 (219.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $13.95 (139.5 bb)
UTG: $3.83 (38.3 bb)
MP: $18.62 (186.2 bb)
CO: $19.12 (191.2 bb)
BTN: $6.39 (63.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6♥: 5♥:
4 folds, SB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 2♥: 2♣: 7♦: (2 players)
SB bets $0.24, Hero raises to $0.80, SB calls $0.56

Turn: ($2.20) 4♠: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.05, SB calls $1.05

River: ($4.30) Q♠: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.11, SB folds

Results:

Spoiler

$4.30 pot ($0.19 rake)
Final Board: 2♥: 2♣: 7♦: 4♠: Q♠:
SB mucked and lost (-$2.15 net)
Hero mucked 6♥: 5♥: and won $4.11 ($1.96 net)

So here is my fancy play hand from last Saturday :f_cool:
Before villain folded this, he said in the chat "wow, you really have trips... never ever a bluff from weak fish" :f_biggrin:

My thought process:
I have noticed that on these dry paired boards half pot donks are very often just bluffs or other weakish hands that can't call a raise.
I was surprised that he called but I picked up some equity and thought it was good to keep repping a strong range.
OTR I was kinda lost. I don't have any showdown equity so only chance to win this is to bluff. I didn't believe villain would have anything super strong since he probably would have 3bet OTF or raised me OTT.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Hello guys, full credit to LA55i who gave me the last minute idea

But for next monday POST HANDS HERE THAT YOU OR YOUR OPPONENTS PLAYED IN A FANCY WAY
I'm looking for limp re-raises, huge traps, tripple check raises or simply Ideas you got that turned out too..well fancy.

And we will include them next Monday instead of made up examples, along with some cool FPS hands I'll try to dig up in our hand evaluations :)


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metalmonkey80
Joined: 15.08.2013

My favorite hand from 10nl. Some times letting others do all the hard work is best :f_drink:

Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players

BTN: $22.98
Hero (SB): $10.00
BB: $7.80
UTG: $10.68
UTG+1: $10.00
UTG+2: $10.37
MP1: $14.51
MP2: $11.46
CO: $8.29

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with J♠ Q♠
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.30, MP1 calls $0.30, 1 fold, CO calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.50) 6♠ 5♠ A♠ (5 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, CO bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80, BB calls $0.80, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds

Turn: ($3.90) T♣ (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, CO bets $2, Hero calls $2, BB raises to $6.70 all in, CO raises to $7.19 all in, Hero calls $5.19

River: ($24.98) 8♠ (3 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $24.98
Hero shows J♠ Q♠ (a flush, Ace high)
BB shows 6♣ 6♦ (three of a kind, Sixes)
CO shows 6♥ 5♣ (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
Hero wins $0.94
Hero wins $22.92
(Rake: $1.12)


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I think I'll be in next monday! :f_drink:

PS: Just have seen the first lesson podcast. Great concept, structure and ideas you present to us. Mostly really beginner things but still things to think about. I read about ranges, hand reading and all this stuff just to realize that it's the less advanced things what is important to optimize to not bring yourself into sick spots post flop oop with dominated hands for example. I think this Course, the BSS Beginner course with paxis (in german) and maybe few material of the strategy section for me is enough material to run over NL5 and be over break even @NL10.

We will see. :f_drink:


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maki8509
Joined: 18.05.2016

:f_drink:


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

Originally posted by marsa08

Creative lines (how to get the most money out of villain). Cbet and he folds his air ( he will most likely have air on this board and fold vs cb). x/r turn and let him bluff turns and fold to raises, YES. Well, here he called turn, otr I bet small because he is never going to fold Ax so I just want him to fold worse draws that missed and maybe some possible Qx that he stationed ott. Big bet should have worse EV than smaller bet here as a bluff:

$0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players

SB: $23.71 (118.6 bb)
BB: $33.69 (168.5 bb)
CO: $36.75 (183.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): $20.00 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J♣: 7♣:
CO folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.90) 8♣: A♣: A♥: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.90) Q♥: (2 players)
BB bets $0.63, Hero raises to $1.85, BB calls $1.22

River: ($4.60) K♦: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.76, BB folds


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

Now that I got it going I found another interesting hand. Turning sdv into a bluff:

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

SB: $22.57 (225.7 bb)
BB: $1.34 (13.4 bb)
UTG: $7.37 (73.7 bb)
MP: $19.17 (191.7 bb)
CO: $15.05 (150.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $11.06 (110.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with T♥: T♦:
UTG calls $0.10, MP folds, CO raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.35) 9♦: K♣: 3♥: (3 players)
UTG checks, CO bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70, UTG folds

Turn: ($2.75) 3♣: (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.75) J♦: (2 players)
CO bets $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, CO folds

Could 3b pre but I want to keep the UTG fish in. Flop is close, but I think that CO will cbet a lot of air on this board too.

Turn: no real need to bet way ahead/ way behind. Could bet for "protection" but I think that checking should be good too.

River: Villains top range is JJ. That is likely the only strong hand in his range, other than that he is capped. I think that he has more weak hands when he checks the turn than strong hands and he can't call a raise otr. We have some blockers(QT) and raising as a bluff should have higher EV than bluffcatching (imo) as he can still have something like QQ,weak Kx etc. that will all fold to a raise but we lose to if we call. vs passive reg I would just fold this river. Villains WTSD is only 20 too so he knows that fold button exists.


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

Originally posted by kalli1
I think I'll be in next monday! :f_drink:

PS: Just have seen the first lesson podcast. Great concept, structure and ideas you present to us. Mostly really beginner things but still things to think about. I read about ranges, hand reading and all this stuff just to realize that it's the less advanced things what is important to optimize to not bring yourself into sick spots post flop oop with dominated hands for example. I think this Course, the BSS Beginner course with paxis (in german) and maybe few material of the strategy section for me is enough material to run over NL5 and be over break even @NL10.

We will see. :f_drink:
Good luck sir!


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LemOn36
Joined: 07.02.2009

And remember guys - keep posting those fancy plays by you or your opponents coming so on Monday we can include your examples instead of made up stuff I come up with ;)


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Poker Stars, $0.50 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 950 (19 bb)
BB: 2,120 (42.4 bb)
CO: 1,955 (39.1 bb)
Hero (BTN): 975 (19.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K♦: J♥:
CO raises to 100, Hero calls 100, 2 folds

Flop: (275) 6♦: 3♥: Q♣: (2 players)
CO bets 132, Hero calls 132

Turn: (539) 3♦: (2 players)
CO bets 259, Hero calls 259

River: (1,057) 4♦: (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets 484 and is all-in, CO folds

Results:

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1,057 pot
Final Board: 6♦: 3♥: Q♣: 3♦: 4♦:
CO mucked and lost (-491 net)
Hero mucked K♦: J♥: and won 1,057 (566 net)

This is a tournament hand but decided to post this here because you marked me as straight forward reg fish :(
This is how you bully melandes x)


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marsa08
Joined: 30.01.2014

Nice coaching! :f_drink: Looking forward to next monday.


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Eselsdorfjung
Joined: 05.07.2014

Was pretty nice, keep the good work up :f_drink:


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Lordcreos
Joined: 15.12.2016

wow amazing work


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