Win rate for Short Stack Strategy of a good short stacker

    • takpoker
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      I played 10,000 hands at NL50 at PokerStars using Short Stack Strategy (SSS) explained in Ed Miller's "Getting Started in Hold'em". My win rate is 1.4BB/100.

      I know 10,000 hands is not a lot to talk about a win rate, but I thought I could make much more with SSS, but what is an average win rate (ptBB/100) for Short Stack Strategy of a good short stacker?

      This is my first post at pokerstrategy.com so if I miss something, please let me know.

      Thank you!

      tak
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    • DaPhunk
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      My winrate used to be 5bb/100 at NL50 (70k hands), 1.8bb/100 at NL100 (70k hands) and when I started NL200 back in the days of yore I was at 1.2bb/100.(15k)

      However recently I've hit a downswing or started playing terribly or something and my win rate has plummeted to something I don't even want to look up on Holdem Manager :D
    • Gerv
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      Good Players do not mind winrate over a couple of k's sample. Good Players mind Solid Play. After you have achieved Solid Play, the money will flow in.
    • Heffron89
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      Imo everything over 0 is good, I havent been plus on my 16k hands yet... but what can I do when i keep getting sucked out :evil:
    • takpoker
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      Originally posted by Gerv
      Good Players do not mind winrate over a couple of k's sample. Good Players mind Solid Play. After you have achieved Solid Play, the money will flow in.
      Your post reminds me of Ed Miller's blog entry;"When Do I Know I’m Awesome?"...

      I agree with your point. I would say awesome (great) players do not mind win rate at all. They focus on improving their games every day and try to be better today than they were yesterday.

      I just wanted to know if people in pokerstrategy.com have some idea of a good win rate of SSS. I was afraid of asking this question in 2+2 since people there ( or poker players in general) hate short stackers.
    • fun101rockets
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      10K is a horrible sample size, some of my sessions r longer than that
    • RahXephon1
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      you should check it at around 50k, the variance is really big. I think everything over 2bb/100 is solid.
    • elhh82
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      over the short term winrate really doesn't matter. I could swing from 2BB/100 over 10k hands to -2BB/100 after another 1k hands.

      For what it's worth, i'm 3.55BB/100 over 90k hands in NL10,25,50. So i must definitely be awesome. :s_cool:
    • goldflair03
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      Originally posted by elhh82
      over the short term winrate really doesn't matter. I could swing from 2BB/100 over 10k hands to -2BB/100 after another 1k hands.
      lol that reminds me on my first nl200 shot
      600 bucks down in less than 1.5k hands :D
      :heart: poker :heart:

      well the best players can get about 2.5BB/100
      everything above is impossible
    • goldi439
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      WOW those winrates are super awesome IMO

      What pokerrooms have these rates been achieved at? I was trying SSS at both partypoker and cake(NL10 only) and I am getting burned badly...

      Already lost $30 of the meager starting capital at cake (party was my own $) and Im scared to carry on losing :( lol

      Albeit I have not played more than 2~3k hands what should I do??? please help ?(

      Newbie in distress