[NL2-NL10] Instructional sample hands #13

  • Poll
    • What is the correct move here and why?

      • 29
        call
        60%
      • 17
        fold
        35%
      • 2
        try to check behind
        4%
      • 0
        leave the table
        0%
      Total: 48 Votes
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2006 Posts: 4,786
      Hero 5$

      Preflop: Hero is BU with T:spade: , T:heart:
      MP1 calls $0,25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1,00, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0,75.

      Flop: ($2,35) J:heart: , 2:heart: , J:club: (2 players)
      MP1 checks, Hero bets $1,65, MP1 raises to 20, Hero ???

      What is the correct move here and why? Opponent is unknown.

      a) fold
      b) call
      c) leave the table
      d) try to check behind
  • 7 replies
    • gustamaneh
      gustamaneh
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.09.2007 Posts: 84
      well i would fold, but that would also depend on my PT reads about the villain
    • erob60
      erob60
      Gold
      Joined: 08.03.2007 Posts: 165
      I opt for call - pot odds are almost 1:3 and often with this sort of board I've seen players do this against the shortstack with A-high and lower pocket pairs.
    • Berliner1982
      Berliner1982
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.07.2006 Posts: 5,644
      I laughted hard about option c.) and d.). ;)
      Option b.) is the right choice here to make. Villain just played limp call from MP1 position what most likely is a hand like a medium Pocket Pair or suited cards or suited connectors like KTs, KJs, QJs, QTs, T9s, 98s etc.
      Its more likely that he pushes here with a Flushdraw or a medium Pocket Pair, then a Jack, since he more likely will put us on Overcards here. So I would call.
    • ciRith
      ciRith
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.03.2005 Posts: 18,556
      Easy call for me.
    • rubysilesia
      rubysilesia
      Silver
      Joined: 03.07.2007 Posts: 351
      Call, we already pushed over half a stack, most often he got mid pockets here.
    • Yoghi
      Yoghi
      Black
      Joined: 10.09.2007 Posts: 14,387
      $2.35 in a $5.65 pot seems easy call for me.
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2006 Posts: 4,786
      The majority is correct here:

      According to the strategy we have an easy fold, because we don't have a made hand anymore.

      But is it better to fold here?

      We have to determine the range, which Villain can hold.
      As an example this is not an untypical range:

      99-22,AhQh,AJs,KJs,QJs,AJo,KJo,QJo

      I think such a range is possible, but has to be adjusted of course depending on the opponent.


      Which equity do we have against this hand if we call here? We use the Equilator:


      At first we have to look at the pot:

      What kind of odds do we get?

      In the pot are (before our all-in decision):

      2,35 $ + 1,65 $ + 1,65 $ + 2,35 $ (Reststack we would have to call after the push) ==> 8 $ are in the pot

      How much do we have to call?

      2,35 $

      ==> We have odds of 2,35:8 oder 1:3,4

      That means we have to be ahead in 22% of the cases to call profitably. Against the range of Villain we have an equity of 40%: We have to call here, because a fold would be a massive loss of expected value.