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[Closed] pre-flop QTs/QJs against one caller

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$0.02/$0.04 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with T:c, Q:c.
UTG calls, UTG1 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, BU raises, SB folds, BB calls, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls, CO calls.

According to the advanced charts against one limper(here it is UTG) i should call with QTs and raise with QJs. But the charts say also the raising hand need to be listed in the first-in chart to raise it, otherwise i should fold.
in this situation i am correct to call with QTs but if i have QJs i should fold QJs because it is not listed in the first-in chart at UTG2.
And this doesn't make sense, i can call QTs but i have to fold QJs. So how about that?

Flop: (12.5 SB) 4:c, 6:d, 4:s (6 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checks, BU bets, BB folds, UTG folds, Hero folds, MP3 calls, CO folds.

Turn: (7.25 BB) A:s (2 players)
MP3 checks, BU bets, MP3 calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 9:h (2 players)
MP3 checks, BU bets, MP3 folds, BU gets uncalled bet back.

Final Pot: 9.25 BB.


1 reply
firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

its just a simple misconception. the chart does mean QTs and better. that means that you can easily raise with QJs. the chart does list just the minimum requirements. you should call the flop once. you are getting 1:14,5 odds. you need approximately 3,5 outs to call and your backdoor flushdraw is worth 1,5 outs and your pair outs should be worth at least 2 outs. it was not a big mistake but next time you should peel as it is way unlikely that somebody raises the flop after it got checked to BU.