[Closed] Nl 100 Ak

Euh yeah ? You get 3bet by a tight player who hasn't 3bet a single hand when you raise from UTG. Just muck your hand.

AK is not a no-brainer-I-have-to-get-it-in-pre-flop hand. It's okey to fold.

My apologies if I come off cocky but I find the question of ''Preflop fold actually possible? '' a bit ridicolous.

Also as played you might want to consider folding river as villain is value-betting 100% of the time so either you are chopping against AK or crushed against KK/AA.
=> You are calling 50$ to win 100$ ( split against AK, villain never value-betting worse and never bluffing)

So it might seem you get 3-1 odds but actually ur getting 2-1.

So villain has like 6 combinations of AK, 3 combos of AA and 1 combo of KK.

So 40% of the time u loose but you only need to invest 1/3th of the total pot so yeah I guess it's a call on river.

Btw my math completely sucks donkey ballz and don't work often with these combinatorics so I might be completely wrong.

(So if villain made some smaller bets on flop and turn u probably could fold river profitably or if the effective stacks were more than 100BB) But then again who would call AK out of position UTG =).

Yeah I was thinking about folding river ...
Cuse he was quite aggressive I thought he could make that move with QQ too ... although he probably plays way ahead/behind with it ...

Also 150 hands seems kinda small sample to me.

Originally posted by Purity
Euh yeah ? You get 3bet by a tight player who hasn't 3bet a single hand when you raise from UTG. Just muck your hand.

AK is not a no-brainer-I-have-to-get-it-in-pre-flop hand. It's okey to fold.

My apologies if I come off cocky but I find the question of ''Preflop fold actually possible? '' a bit ridicolous.

Also as played you might want to consider folding river as villain is value-betting 100% of the time so either you are chopping against AK or crushed against KK/AA.
=> You are calling 50$ to win 100$ ( split against AK, villain never value-betting worse and never bluffing)

So it might seem you get 3-1 odds but actually ur getting 2-1.

So villain has like 6 combinations of AK, 3 combos of AA and 1 combo of KK.

So 40% of the time u loose but you only need to invest 1/3th of the total pot so yeah I guess it's a call on river.

Btw my math completely sucks donkey ballz and don't work often with these combinatorics so I might be completely wrong.

(So if villain made some smaller bets on flop and turn u probably could fold river profitably or if the effective stacks were more than 100BB) But then again who would call AK out of position UTG =).

I completely agree with this.

Also if you think his range is that tight, calling OOP will make your life very very hard and will result in making a ton of mistakes postflop.
You can see this when you look at what happened postflop: You flop TPTK in a 3bet pot and you basically feel bad about putting any more money in the pot on all streets.

Originally posted by z1pz0r
Cuse he was quite aggressive I thought he could make that move with QQ too ...

This doesn't make sense and might be an indicator that there's a significant lack of understanding about how to use aggression and why.

When he bets QQ on the turn he is turning it into a bluff to get you to fold a range of AK, KQ and AA! This will just not happen because he doesn't expect you to ever fold a hand like this at any point in the hand.
He has nuts or nothing on the river, except that once he 3bets preflop there's no more "nothing" in his range - he does probably not even 3bet AK.

edit: Sorry if this came out rough, wasn't meant that way :).