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looserbaby79
Joined: 20.01.2009

** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ** (IPoker)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, January 12, 07:46:36 ET 2011
Table Tallinn 541251571 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Hero ( $2960.00 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 3.7, Hands: 2499
Seat 5: Player5 ( $1530.00 USD ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 15, 3B: 6, AF: 6.0, Hands: 726
Seat 6: Player6 ( $2570.00 USD ) - VPIP: 13, PFR: 10, 3B: 2, AF: Infinity, Hands: 186
Seat 7: Player7 ( $1880.00 USD ) - VPIP: 12, PFR: 4, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 68
Seat 8: Player8 ( $2800.00 USD ) - VPIP: 12, PFR: 8, 3B: 8, AF: Infinity, Hands: 59
Seat 9: Player9 ( $2410.00 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 7, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 59
Seat 10: Player10 ( $850.00 USD ) - VPIP: 15, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 3.8, Hands: 157
Player5 posts small blind [$100.00 USD].
Player6 posts big blind [$200.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Ah Qd ]
Player7 folds
Player8 folds
Player9 folds
Player10 folds
Hero raises [$500.00 USD]
Player5 folds
Player6 folds

hi
push or raise?
imo - if i push i can fold coinflip hands like 22-66
but if i only raise i can involved worst hands - like Ax...
thx for advice


4 replies

nh wp

What would you have done if someone pushed over you?


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

I think raising is better here, effective stacks are like ~13bb's deep and I do believe unknowns restealing range here is a little bit looser than his calling all in range. If bb was a little bit more shortstacked like ~2,200 shoving starts to be better. And yes we benefit from our opponents getting broke with a wider range here... He's adding more hands that we crush than we are flipping against so that's always nice..

Personally I think raising to 2.25bb's or ~450 is way better with all of my range in similar spots(when the blinds are so big). you have the same fold equity and risk a little bit less.

Originally posted by jass1960
What would you have done if someone pushed over you?

We always have to have a plan.
Calling against both players is super standard here. We we are ahead of both opponents ranges and we have nice pot odds..

for an example if sb shoves for his 1530 stack we only need ~36% equity to call.. That means we can call even if we know sb only shoves AQ+ TT+ here.. And he's 99% of the time getting broke with a wider range here

On the otherhand we need like 50% equity against bb if he shoves.. so he needs to be shoving AT+ 88+ or wider for it to be a profitable call.. I think most uknowns will go broke with at least that range if not looser.


looserbaby79
Joined: 20.01.2009

If bb was a little bit more shortstacked like ~2,200 shoving starts to be better.

why is more profitable to push than raise if SB have only 2200? i am trying to guess but i really dont know :-)
thx


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

Originally posted by looserbaby79
If bb was a little bit more shortstacked like ~2,200 shoving starts to be better.

why is more profitable to push than raise if SB have only 2200? i am trying to guess but i really dont know :-)
thx

hmm not really sure if I understand your question.. But we have a strong hand and are pushing for effective stack of ~13bb's.. That doesn't really feel good and I would rather raise call.. since our opponents will resteal with worse hands than they call all in with.. and if we are up against tight opponents in similar spots we can get away.. ofcourse if we have a worse hand than AQ..

if both players would have 11bb's or less then I would shove cuz we are shoving for effective stack size of 11b's.. Which is standard.