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maniac

Coach

Joined: 29.03.2006

19.01.2011, 19:42 0

hi,

all villains fish. how much do you shove here?
i think much looser than nash couldn´t be +ev right? ,o
i ask this because of the looser bu range you mention and if i can tranfer it to mp3? not this much but a little bit maybe.
this one is a clear shove 5h with no shorty on board.

ICM Nash Calculator Results

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (5 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t5505)
SB (t2300)
BB (t1650)
UTG (t2470)
Hero (MP) (t1575)

Hero's M: 5.25

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9, A
2 folds, Button calls t200, 1 fold, BB checks

Flop: (t500) Q, 7, 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Button checks

Turn: (t500) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Button checks

River: (t500) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Button checks

Total pot: t500

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5 replies

Hlynkinn

Joined: 14.06.2008

Posts: 4,988

20.01.2011, 14:59 0

I push this in game all the time... Can't seem to get a ICM calculator working to justify my push here.... So i'll forward to another judge

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_Anonymous_

20.01.2011, 22:54 0

looks pretty std shove to me. A8o seems to be the bottom for me here.

maniac

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Joined: 29.03.2006

Posts: 4,474

21.01.2011, 13:23 0

so i cant assume that the BU spots you mention (eg 50% to shove if blinds call tight), were useful for co spots, too?

Hlynkinn

Joined: 14.06.2008

Posts: 4,988

21.01.2011, 13:59 0

Originally posted by maniac
so i cant assume that the BU spots you mention (eg 50% to shove if blinds call tight), were useful for co spots, too?

There are 50% more players you have to shove into while in CO so of course you have to shove a little bit tighter... When shoving into more opponents (tight opponents that is) A2o type of hands get less valuable and QTs type hands start to be more +ev shoves..

Also in this spot we are shoving into a big stack btn which I think is quite often calling us loosely here

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_Anonymous_

21.01.2011, 22:06 0

Originally posted by Hlynkinn

Originally posted by maniac
so i cant assume that the BU spots you mention (eg 50% to shove if blinds call tight), were useful for co spots, too?

There are 50% more players you have to shove into while in CO so of course you have to shove a little bit tighter... When shoving into more opponents (tight opponents that is) A2o type of hands get less valuable and QTs type hands start to be more +ev shoves..

Also in this spot we are shoving into a big stack btn which I think is quite often calling us loosely here

yes this.

also when it gets closer to 6-5-4 handed our risk aversion increases which reduces our shove range. if it was 9 handed with this exact same set-up our range would be wider because our risk-aversion is lower

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