NL5 QQ set vs tigh

B0st0n

Joined: 31.03.2010

08.02.2011, 01:03 0

Full Tilt Poker $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players

BTN: $4.48
SB: $5.00 - VPIP: 12, PFR: 7, 3B: 3, AF: 1.7, Hands: 841
BB: $5.00
Hero (UTG): 5.79
UTG+1: $7.61
UTG+2: $5.00
MP1: $1.95 - VPIP: 22, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 45
MP2: $7.26
CO: $1.88

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with Q :diamond: Q :spade:
Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, MP1 calls $0.20, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.80, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.60, MP1 calls $0.60

I only call preflop, because I know his range is very very tight here, as we have some history and I assume he knows I am not raising from UTG light, I d say something AK, JJ+ (might be even tighter) and I have position on him postflop

Flop: ($2.45) Q :heart: K :heart: 4 :heart: (3 players)
SB bets $3.00 HERO ??

I hit my set, but he overbets pot leavinf 1.20 behind , can I continue here or am I beat here most of the time and have to fold? Or should I fold those queens preflop to his 3bet?

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5 replies

_Anonymous_

08.02.2011, 01:31 0

looks to me like an easy shove. He overbets because he's scared of a flush probably. the only hand that beats you here is KK. He would probably play pretty much the same way if he has AA or AK. I think that folding is definitely too weak.

Saren113

Joined: 06.03.2009

Posts: 2,148

08.02.2011, 01:44 0

AKs and KK is the only combos who got you beat.

it's 3 possible combos, rest is either drawing hands or wose hand then your.

I think he would bet that size with AK. I would go for it in this spot tbh.

his c bet OOP it feels like hes defending against a one hand flush.

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_Anonymous_

08.02.2011, 02:56 0

Tricky spot but you just got to call it!

dallievas

Joined: 30.11.2007

Posts: 799

08.02.2011, 06:19 0

Tricky spot but you just got to call it!

what tricky spot?
us beat 4 combos in 3 bet pot (KK 3+ 1 AhKh) ,we beat 12 combos (4 AA,12 AK) ,so 25% vs 75% and you have 3.8:1 redraw to fh (less if he have KK).
Board: Kh Qh 4h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 26.760% 25.14% 01.62% 15678 1012.50 { KK+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 73.240% 71.62% 01.62% 44667 1012.50 { QQ }

So what we do with 50% plus equity? Push Shove All in
And if he have fd (Ah x) :
Board: Kh Qh 4h
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.980% 32.98% 00.00% 5877 0.00 { AcAh, AdAh, AhAs, AcKh, AdKh, AhKc, AhKd, AhKs, AsKh }
Hand 1: 67.020% 67.02% 00.00% 11943 0.00 { QQ }

Is this the case of so called "either Or " thinking fallacy in my reply? ♦

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veriz

Joined: 20.07.2008

Posts: 64,009

08.02.2011, 11:35 0

Hello B0st0n,

As you Called preflop then you can't really fold it or anything like that to do here. Calling would be also pointless since the pot on turn would be big enough to even Call it when flush hits. Therefore just shove it on flop, there are still a lot worse hands which he may have and of course if he even has here flush or whatever, we still have outs for FH.

Best regards.

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