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[Closed] Once more - Overpair

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TheOldNerd
Joined: 16.12.2010

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$6,71:///////;MP2$0,31:16/31/19/0.8/60/0/-/0;CO$2,65:26/50/12/2.8/38/0/0/20;[/tg]
0,1/0,2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.90 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with A♥, A♦
Hero raises, MP1 folds, MP2 3-bets, MP3 folds, CO caps, 3 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls (All-In).

Oh, Aces! Always a nice view before the flop... Even vs two tight players, my equity here is 71%.

Flop: (12,60 SB) Q♦, 6♣, 5♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

Would 3-bet here be a better option, to keep the initiative? My equity is around 63%. Given CO is loose, i'm considering he has KQ or QJ. I don't think he would cap with hands like 66, but QQ is a real danger.
Turn: (8,30 BB) Q♠ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, CO caps, Hero calls.

I c-bet. His raise is likely a made hand. Even worse when he caps. Was my 3-bet here a mistake? I think it was. Well, at this point, either he has a Q, and i'm way behind, or he doesn't, i'm way ahead. Switching strategy to WA/WB.
River: (16,30 BB) 8♥ (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

No real risk of a straight at this point. As i'm in a WA/WB situation, i just check/call.
Final Pot: 18,30 BB

Without spoiling the evaluation by saying the result, i found out in the end that both my opponents were way out of the expected hand range. My final question is: how to adapt your hand-reading skills to looser players?


4 replies
taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Standard c/r on the flop, you lose value by donking it. B/calldown from the turn, he either has AQ or some weird bluff like A:dK:d.


firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

you should 3bet the flop immidiately to keep the initiative since you don't know whether he does take a freecard with any PP or a flushdraw. you gain 1SB more by checkraising the turn but you will loose 3SB if he does check behind the turn then. so without a read oop keep being aggressive.

as played you should calldown from the turn on since KQ or AQ is quite likely. especially after his raise on the turn he will frequently have Qx as when he wasn't he would just call the turn but rarely raise it with a pocketpair and if he does a free showdown raise with TT 99 or something he'll probably fold.

3bet flop bet/calldown on the turn.

by donking the turn you just get raised by better hands but they bet anyway if you check. by donking you just risk to pay more against better ones and win the same against worse ones.


taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

Note that he donked the flop, standard would be to checkraise it instead of donk/3bet.


firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

thats true. standard move is check/raise the flop. didn't recognize that sorry. but as played 3bet is still in favour of checkraise the turn against an unknown.