[Closed] NL100 Trapping with AA, bad turn

pre: unless you know utg+1 is folding when you 3b, I would go ahead and 3b. the tighter his range is the more likely you get Allin preflop.

I understand wanting to trap the fish, but the reality is that when you get TT6 flop and the fish is still in the hand you are more worried about him having come along with T9s or w/e than what the reg is holding. So I would just go ahead and raise and hope fish has QQ and utg+1 has KK and you win two stacks.

if you expect UTG to shove, then just make it $25 and hope he comes over the top.

As played I think it partly depends on whether you think utg+1 would cbet AK on the flop with you and the fish in the hand. Once the turn comes, there are 6 combinations of AK he can have and only 3 combinations of KK, so theoretically if villain cbets AK here then you have an easy call down. Especially if he is thinking and knows there are no Tx hands in your range.

the other point is that he could even play QQ this way since he won't put any Kx hands in your range once you call on this flop so he could even put you on JJ/99 and be shoving the River for value.

Originally posted by Tim64
pre: unless you know utg+1 is folding when you 3b, I would go ahead and 3b. the tighter his range is the more likely you get Allin preflop.

I understand wanting to trap the fish, but the reality is that when you get TT6 flop and the fish is still in the hand you are more worried about him having come along with T9s or w/e than what the reg is holding. So I would just go ahead and raise and hope fish has QQ and utg+1 has KK and you win two stacks.

if you expect UTG to shove, then just make it $25 and hope he comes over the top.

As played I think it partly depends on whether you think utg+1 would cbet AK on the flop with you and the fish in the hand. Once the turn comes, there are 6 combinations of AK he can have and only 3 combinations of KK, so theoretically if villain cbets AK here then you have an easy call down. Especially if he is thinking and knows there are no Tx hands in your range.

the other point is that he could even play QQ this way since he won't put any Kx hands in your range once you call on this flop so he could even put you on JJ/99 and be shoving the River for value.

Generally I agree with this, but this is one of the rare spots in which I might actually coldcall a 3bet - my range for this is not balanced whatsoever, but I expect the opponents not to exploit this.

As played I'd call down. KK has 3 combos, AK 9. We only need to be ahead ~25% of the time to make the rivercall profitable - if he has only 1 combination of AK in his valuerange along with the 3 KK we can already call, but there are 3 KK and 9 AK. So he can check his AK ~90% of the time and we're still doing ok.

As played I'd call down. KK has 3 combos, AK 9. We only need to be ahead ~25% of the time to make the rivercall profitable - if he has only 1 combination of AK in his valuerange along with the 3 KK we can already call, but there are 3 KK and 9 AK. So he can check his AK ~90% of the time and we're still doing ok.

I cant find 9 combos of AK? We have 2 Aces already. There is a K on the board so its surely 2 Aces to be combined with 3 Kings? {AdKh, AdKc, AsKd, AsKh, AsKc, AdKd}. Did I miss something?

thx

Originally posted by Tim64

As played I'd call down. KK has 3 combos, AK 9. We only need to be ahead ~25% of the time to make the rivercall profitable - if he has only 1 combination of AK in his valuerange along with the 3 KK we can already call, but there are 3 KK and 9 AK. So he can check his AK ~90% of the time and we're still doing ok.

I cant find 9 combos of AK? We have 2 Aces already. There is a K on the board so its surely 2 Aces to be combined with 3 Kings? {AdKh, AdKc, AsKd, AsKh, AsKc, AdKd}. Did I miss something?

thx

Nope, I missed out on our 2nd A, there are only 6 combos of AK left.

He can still check slightly over 80% of the time (1/6) though - enough to call down imo.