Nl 100 Kk

postflop:fine, maybe u can bet a little bigger on the river
preflop: it kinda sucks to get it in vs this kind of player so i like your play.

I dont normally fold KK pre, so I'm 4betting to $30 and calling it off. If you are not willing to get it in, what is the plan on different flops? You cant call for set value vs AA...

So I rather 4b or fold if he really is a super nit and you always expect him to have Aces.

Well maybe I am too strong...

Problem is that when he has QQ you dont stack him becuase of those damn Aces on the board which scare both of you too much to put any more $ in.

River you can bet $17+ since he clearly doesnt (or shouldnt) have an Ax hand.

I think 110 hands is not enough to be sure he is a nit. I can also play 10/6/0 over 100 hands

I think you cant make mistake when you 4b/call.

Ofc its still sqz against utg and we can assume he is tight player if not really nit.
Calling is probably also okay. The problem is you quite often miss the opportunity to cooler AK/QQ preflop.
If we think he is polarized we should be more inclined to call? Ofc we cant know that

postflop i probably play the same but bet bigger R. I would probably even bet like 23.

Would like to hear more about 4b vs call pre.

i am not sure if he is getting it in pre with AK and QQ. He might just 3bet/fold.

Originally posted by i5bet72o
i am not sure if he is getting it in pre with AK and QQ. He might just 3bet/fold.

This could be valid point, There are still lot of players who do this.

I know that calling is one of the worst things to do, OOP vs nit.
I guess I just got lucky here, it's probably EV-.
I actually think bet sth like 23 would scare him off. He already tanked a lot before calling.
But yeah, I should have bet at least half pot.

Originally posted by z1pz0r
I know that calling is one of the worst things to do, OOP vs nit.
I guess I just got lucky here, it's probably EV-.
I actually think bet sth like 23 would scare him off. He already tanked a lot before calling.
But yeah, I should have bet at least half pot.

oop vs a nit isnt that big of a deal imho, as he is gonna play very straightforward most of the time.
Well its hard to say on what level is he on. If he is trying to give u some sort of range and is thinkng a bit he might be more inclined to call bigger bet on the river as your betsize kinda screams thin valuebet =), plus if he decides "it was checked 2times, im gonna call river bet" then he is calling any size.
But ofc if we think he is just looking at his cards and betsize then lower is a bit better as we target his weak holdings. Its actually pretty hard to give him weaker calling range for the river other than QQ. Its pretty unlikely he would 3bet JJ there (but possible). But as we cant really know if he is only squezing for value he can also have some 7x or 5x hands i guess.

But ofc if we think he is just looking at his cards and betsize then lower is a bit better as we target his weak holdings.

True, but if he is a nit (more or less), he has no weak holdings - just QQ.

Originally posted by i5bet72o
i am not sure if he is getting it in pre with AK and QQ. He might just 3bet/fold.

That's what I'm most concerned about as well.

Therefore I'd usually also just call the squeeze given the positions.

Especially when we assume he has a polarized range that even includes some bluffs we're off a lot better by just calling the squeeze because he can make huge mistakes preflop, but I wouldn't be too sure he has that many bluffs (if any) in his range as he appears to be tight.

As played I like your line expcept that I'd also bet bigger on the river. But this depends on what you assume, you can argue he might perceive the big bet as bluffy and call small PPs, you can as well assume he's just scared by the big bet.

I also like calling pre to hopefully keep in the half stack, I think that 4 betting probably isolates you against AA