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[Closed] 3$ SnG Speed -66 resteal + cont bet

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CHARMANDER06
Joined: 06.08.2010
PokerStrategist

Known Players:
[tg]Position_Stack: hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;MP2_1850:///////;MP3_1810:///////;CO_5475:///////;BU_3055:///////;Hero_5510:///////;BB_2300:///////;[/tg]
SnG-MTT $ 3.00 (10 Players)
50/100 No-Limit Hold'em (6 Players)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.99.40308.1 by www.pokerstrategy.com

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 :spade:, 6 :diamond:
3 fold, BU calls,
Hero raises 250 to 350, BB folds, BU calls

Flop: (800) A :heart:, 8 :club:, 4 :diamond: (2 Players)
Hero bets 500,
BU raises 500 to 1000, Hero folds

Final Pot: 2300

I believe the steal here is standard. Was the cont bet a bit too big, with this bet size I am pretty sure he would have folded if he didnt hit an ace or a set.


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akrammon
Joined: 17.05.2009
Elite Grinder

The cbet is good imo. The fold is good too.

I sometimes skip these steal situations vs opponents who call me down a lot. It might still be +EV, but I hate to handle situations postflop when I'm OOP with a hand that has bad playability. Though it might be too nitty to openfold, but I'm more inclined to do that, *against certain opponents*. You didn't give much info about villain.

EDIT:
Ah, and I raise to 2,5x on this limit, 3,5x is a bit of throwing chips away imo but correct me if I'm wrong :)


CHARMANDER06 Topic starter
CHARMANDER06
Joined: 06.08.2010
PokerStrategist

I think 2.5x gives him very good pot odds to call with suited connectors and hands like that, the 3.5x is to eliminate such hands which is likely to have limped with.


akrammon
Joined: 17.05.2009
Elite Grinder

Okay.

I tryed to evaluate like 5 hands yesterday, and I have overlooked at least three...

I thought it was folded to you.

In this case I fold this hand even though it looks nitty, cos he is almost always calling you down (if he is bad, which can be assumed I guess), and you have to play in an 800 pot with around 2000 chips left with a hand that is very vulnerable, and on top of that, OOP. Fold is not a good option cos we are ahead vs his range, but I think its the best option.


VBZg
Joined: 06.12.2009
Oldschool Grinder

you are still somewhat deep, so i just call here for set value, that means on flop = no set no bet, and you eliminate building pot preflop with out of position play, which really sucks with those mid-low pocket pairs in this phase of the sng.

As played postflop, c-bet 400 max, and nice fold to re-raise, wp.


CHARMANDER06 Topic starter
CHARMANDER06
Joined: 06.08.2010
PokerStrategist

Originally posted by VBZg
you are still somewhat deep, so i just call here for set value, that means on flop = no set no bet, and you eliminate building pot preflop with out of position play, which really sucks with those mid-low pocket pairs in this phase of the sng.

As played postflop, c-bet 400 max, and nice fold to re-raise, wp.

Hence, I should have just called and folded if set was not hit on flop? Is the raise bad because the hand flops badly and because im OOP, would it have been better to raise with a hand like JTs?


VBZg
Joined: 06.12.2009
Oldschool Grinder

Originally posted by CHARMANDER06

Originally posted by VBZg
you are still somewhat deep, so i just call here for set value, that means on flop = no set no bet, and you eliminate building pot preflop with out of position play, which really sucks with those mid-low pocket pairs in this phase of the sng.

As played postflop, c-bet 400 max, and nice fold to re-raise, wp.

Hence, I should have just called and folded if set was not hit on flop? Is the raise bad because the hand flops badly and because im OOP, would it have been better to raise with a hand like JTs?

Yes, you try to hit your set, and thats all. Try not to play out of position without strong (value) hand, and in this case i would raise TT+ AK+. Here is even worse because you confronting second big stack, so dont ever put your self in oop situation without strong hand. There will be planty of opportunities.


Originally posted by VBZg
you are still somewhat deep, so i just call here for set value, that means on flop = no set no bet, and you eliminate building pot preflop with out of position play, which really sucks with those mid-low pocket pairs in this phase of the sng.

As played postflop, c-bet 400 max, and nice fold to re-raise, wp.

this!


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