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[Closed] 100 rush set v fish

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peche025
Joined: 14.12.2008

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($103.15)
Hero (MP1) ($101)
MP2 ($100)
MP3 ($151.40)
CO ($112)
Button ($116.65)
SB ($153.90)
BB ($95.50)
UTG ($100.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9♠, 9♦
2 folds, Hero bets $3.50, 2 folds, CO calls $3.50, Button calls $3.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($14.50) 2♠, 8♠, 9♥ (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, 1 fold, Button calls $10, 1 fold

Turn: ($34.50) K♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $24.50, Button calls $24.50

River: ($83.50) 7♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $63 (All-In), Button calls $63

Total pot: $209.50

Villian is playing 46/19 0.6 af 26 hands

River is probably the worst card in the deck, completing flush and TJ which I think are definitely in villians range being so passive. Is the river still super easy value shove though, this guy is probably calling any 2 pr+ and the 7 probably adds some 2 pr's to his range.
OTT against this specific villian is there merit to betting our made hands larger f.e. $30 so we're both more committed OTR and betting draws $15 or something giving ourselves a better price to draw?


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TetraQuark
Joined: 21.05.2008

I think he is stil raising most twopair hands on flop or turn. So the only K7 is pretty unreal, I mean there could be Ks7s but river card blocks that one. So there is 87, 97 combos maybe, but as you said majority of his range are completed gs and flushes.

So really dunno played w equilator a bit, put in mostly draws and some twopair combos and got 50:50 (considering he raises flop or turn twopair). So we can`t c/f, c/c?


peche025
Joined: 14.12.2008

Appreciate the reply gregor but I think using the equilator against this kind of player can be near impossible as they turn up with hands you would would never imagine. f.e. maybe he has AA and was trapping, but I would never include that in his range but it is probably in there.


TetraQuark
Joined: 21.05.2008

Well one can still set up some imaginary range to see te numbers. So if he traps(but u prolly have to have reads about that, not just guess), and pulls similair stunts maybe w toppair or smth than there is no question that shove on river is +ev in a long run.


shoving or c/f are really the only options here. since he is much a big fish i prefer shoving.


supeyrio
Joined: 11.11.2009

whatever but not check/call. i'm inclined to shove


Shevtshenko
Joined: 06.12.2009

i'm a nit and i'd c/f all day here. There's rly so few things that don't have you beat and he's never bluffing or betting worse so i'd c/f alw R. Also it's tough for him to have a hand or a reason to call here so it's prly too thin for value.


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Against the passive fish I'd blockbet 14 on the river.
I don't like the shove that much because the board is pretty scary and imo there aren't too many hands he can call because most 2pair+ hands would raise by the turn.
So I'm trying to get some thin value vs weak 1pair hands.
If we check I agree that vs him it's definitely a c/f, he's just never bluffing.


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010

c/f for suuuuure imo. He's passive and won't turn AA into a bluff, he will check lots fo 2 pairs,even though he very rarely has two pair. Jamming is a big leak/mistake imo as I think everything that we beat folds and he wont attempt to bluff/turn w.showdown into bluff.


randomdonk
Joined: 02.08.2009

Originally posted by Shevtshenko
i'm a nit and i'd c/f all day here.

definitely no need to be a nit to c/f this, anything else is pretty big spew unless u know he's completely braindead and will call u down with any pair or something.
i dont really like the blockbet idea either since he will have a hard time calling with worse even a 14$ bet imo and he has a better hand than us pretty often.

this guy is probably calling any 2 pr+ and the 7 probably adds some 2 pr's to his range.

he's raising any 2pair on this board and 7 only improves 87 and 97 which u block.
and yeah 27-29 turn ^^