Rush NL50 KK folded preflop

11.06.2011, 00:27 0

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Full Tilt - $0.50 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players

MP+1: $14.25
Hero (LP): $57.00
CO: $50.75
BTN: $50.50
SB: $63.90
BB: $66.10 (VP:14, PFR:11, 3B:2.7, 4B:0, 500 hands).
UTG: $63.10
UTG+1: $50.75
MP: $32.95

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero has K♥ K♠

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, BTN calls $1.50, SB calls $1.25, BB raises to $6.00, Hero raises to $15.00, fold, fold,
BB raises to $66.10 and is all-in, fold

BB wins $33.00

This is not the first time I fold KK preflop in rush. I really could not see him with anything but AA there.

What is your general strategy with KK preflop in rush. Do you just get it in no matter what? Is it even +EV of me to ever fold KK preflop?

Your thoughts would be appreciated.

4 replies

_Anonymous_

11.06.2011, 02:13 0

well imo if u feel that he wouldnt jam with a worse hand than AA (which i believe to be false here), y dont u just call his squueze?

_Anonymous_

11.06.2011, 07:51 0

Originally posted by i5bet72o
well imo if u feel that he wouldnt jam with a worse hand than AA (which i believe to be false here), y dont u just call his squueze?

Well after I raised his squeeze, he pretty much insta-jammed it. This info together with his stats made me feel it had to be nothing but AA. If I wouldn't have raised his squeeze, I would not have had this info, so I don't really understand why you are suggesting to just call (do his stats agree with your assumption that I'm wrong?). If he was on a pure squeeze I assume he would probably not shove...

_Anonymous_

11.06.2011, 08:28 0

Originally posted by achschelo

Originally posted by i5bet72o
well imo if u feel that he wouldnt jam with a worse hand than AA (which i believe to be false here), y dont u just call his squueze?

Well after I raised his squeeze, he pretty much insta-jammed it. This info together with his stats made me feel it had to be nothing but AA. If I wouldn't have raised his squeeze, I would not have had this info, so I don't really understand why you are suggesting to just call (do his stats agree with your assumption that I'm wrong?). If he was on a pure squeeze I assume he would probably not shove...

well imo he could also instajam AK or QQ (maybe). By just calling u keep his bluffs in his range (as well as JJ, QQ, and AK if u do believe he squeeze/folds these)+u also have position. Also by 4bet/folding here u r effectivly turning your hand into a bluff which i think isnt the best play with a hand as strong as KK.

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14.06.2011, 13:11 0

Originally posted by i5bet72o

Originally posted by achschelo

Originally posted by i5bet72o
well imo if u feel that he wouldnt jam with a worse hand than AA (which i believe to be false here), y dont u just call his squueze?

Well after I raised his squeeze, he pretty much insta-jammed it. This info together with his stats made me feel it had to be nothing but AA. If I wouldn't have raised his squeeze, I would not have had this info, so I don't really understand why you are suggesting to just call (do his stats agree with your assumption that I'm wrong?). If he was on a pure squeeze I assume he would probably not shove...

well imo he could also instajam AK or QQ (maybe). By just calling u keep his bluffs in his range (as well as JJ, QQ, and AK if u do believe he squeeze/folds these)+u also have position. Also by 4bet/folding here u r effectivly turning your hand into a bluff which i think isnt the best play with a hand as strong as KK.

Definitely agree with this.
After 4betting I don't think we can possibly fold. He will sometimes get it in with QQ or AK - if we only add 1 combination of QQ or AK to his range we have over 30% equity which means it would be an incredibly close fold, and that's even assuming he's never flatting the 4bet with AA or smth like that.

Calling the squeeze is certainly worth a consideration, especially when you expect him to only get it in with AA the call is better than the 4bet because almost nobody would actually call the 4bet, therefore as I5bet72o said you're pretty much just bluffing with the KK.

Variance giveth and variance taketh away.

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