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[Closed] $22 44 7bb(eff) BB 5-players Preflop call a push vs reg?

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VBZg
Joined: 06.12.2009

No Limit Holdem Tournament
5 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG (1,360)
CO (3,780)
BTN (4,280) 29/23/6.2/36/1.4k vpip/pfr/3bet/first from BU/no. hands filtered 4-6 good winning reg
SB (4,330) good winning reg
Hero (BB) (6,250)

Blinds: 300/600

Pre-Flop: (900, 5 players) Hero is BB 4♥ 4♠
2 folds, BTN goes all-in 4,280, 1 fold, Hero calls 3,680

Flop: 3♠ K♦ J♥ (8,860, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: 5♦ (8,860, 2 players, 1 all-in)

River: 4♦ (8,860, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: 8,860
Hero shows
4♥ 4♠
BTN shows
9♣ K♥

Hero wins 8,860 (net +4,580)

BTN lost 4,280

Ok, here i made bad call by NASH, and here are ranges for BU push SB call and BB call:
BU (push): 39.1%, 22+ Ax+ K2s+ K9o+ Q3s+ Q9o+ J7s+ J9o+ T7s+ T9o 97s+ 86s+ 76s
SB (call): 7.1%, 88+ ATs+ AJo+
BB (overcall): 1.8%, JJ+
BB (call): 12.2%, 66+ A7s+ A8o+ KJs+

Now, does reg need to adjust here to other regs in a way that if he know that SB and BB are calling by NASH vs him, then by what sngwiz say he need to push 65% 22+,A2+,K2+,Q4+,Q2s+,J7+,J2s+,T7+,T2s+,97+,94s+,86+,84s+,76,74s+,64s+,53s+,43s
and in that case i can call with 25% 44+,A3+,A2s+,K9+,K7s+,QJ,QTs+.

I assume, i should have a good read, like i saw him pushing that range into me in this situation, which in this hand is not the case.

Conclusion: Call him in future by NASH, until proofed the other way.

Is my conclusion ok, and should i push outside the NASH in his situation to exploit regulars, until i see they started to widen up their calling range?


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dydukas
Joined: 01.05.2009

Now, does reg need to adjust here to other regs in a way that if he know that SB and BB are calling by NASH vs him, then by what sngwiz say he need to push 65%

How do you get 65% in Wiz? When I enter Nash calling ranges I get tighter pushing range from btn. A midstacked reg shouldn't push that wide anyway into another cl reg, right?

And imo Nash for btn is wide enough already. Considering that next hand a shortie is likely to bust. After that another shorter stack will need to go trough blinds and if he's fishy (as you didn't mention otherwise) he will most likely loose chips too and become shortie. And exploiting good regs only creates bigger variance...

Anyway just my opinion, I'm more of a nitty now and optimistic for future player. :) But in general imo you should start by Nash and then adjust accordingly.


In these situations where your chip lead is a huge advantage you want to call way tighter than Nash from a middle stack, too much risk not enough reward. You want preserve your chiplead and use your fold equity as your weapon, not call coinflips. Remember, the blind you are giving up will most likely be more than made back in the ensuing orbit provided you are the bigstack.