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Poker Stars $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1369019
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BTN: $204.40
SB: $75.00
BB: $295.00
UTG: $386.70
MP: $203.00
Hero (CO): $266.25

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with K :diamond: 9 :spade:
2 folds, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BB raises to $20, Hero raises to $50, BB raises to $88, Hero calls $38

Flop: ($177.00) 3 :heart: 6 :club: K :spade: (2 players)
BB bets $52.00, Hero folds

Villan is 20/13/6.7
I know that's not a lot but i have a read on him that he 3bets specifically me a lot, this is the first time I 4betted him.
I pretty much put him 100% on AA and KK there but because of insane odds he gave me I can call and try to hit my trips/2 pair and get his stack like 100% of time? Not really sure how to calculate if this is EV+, help?


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IMO not rly, I dont know the exact numbers (I should- I can potentially calculate them w comibatorics and stuff) but u dont have the correct implieds and even if it was clsoe, u have K-> reverse implieds if u had 78s that could be a lot betteer


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

To get the exact EV you need the concept of conditional probability, i.e. you want the probability of one card in the flop being a K or a 9 and one or 2 of the others being a K or a 9 as well under the condition that the first card was a K or a 9 already.

But on balance I don't think you gain much by calculating this as the spot occurs so seldomly and you can approximate the result easily.

What I did was simply putting K9o vs KK+ in the equilab:

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    11.31%  10.96%   0.35% { K9o }
MP3    88.69%  88.35%   0.35% { KK+ }

Since we need to flop the 2pair specifically on the flop, and we'll not continue in scenarios where we f.e. have a GS and therefore some equity, I'd estimate that our "real" equity (the one that includes us folding on a lot of flops) is probably 5%-6%.
So imo we need something like 16:1-20:1 odds to make the call - presuming the opponent never folds even on something like a KKx board.

Since we're not even close to that (even the full stacks including the pot give us less than 10:1) it's an easy fold preflop imo.


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