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[Closed] plo500 turn spot

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LooserSR
Joined: 27.02.2011

preflop : CO is semifish on massive tilt, i wait he 4b any better hand, thats why weird 3b size, thought on this ?
flop : standard
turn : standard i guess too ? bad card for me but can i do anything else then jam ?

$5/$5 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
4 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($518)
BTN ($1,488.75)
PLO hero (SB) ($1,505)
BB ($1,588)

Pre-Flop: ($10, 4 players) PLO hero is SB 4♥ A♠ Q♥ A♥
CO raises to $20, BTN calls $20, PLO hero raises to $40, 1 fold, CO calls $20, BTN calls $20

Flop: Q♦ A♦ 9♣ ($125, 3 players)
PLO hero bets $125, CO calls $125, BTN folds

Turn: 8♥ ($375, 2 players)
PLO hero bets $375, CO calls $353

River: 7♦ ($1,103, 2 players)

Final Pot: $1,103
CO shows
10:club: 3♣ Q♠ J♦
PLO hero shows
4♥ A♠ Q♥ A♥

CO wins $1,079 (net +$561)

PLO hero collects $22 (net -$518)
BTN lost $40


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

You've got 300 bets, and you are out of position vs BTN and BB who both also have 300 bets. The fish in the CO has 100 bets.

This puts you in an extremely tough spot preflop, and that's before we get onto the hand itself.

I would be looking to see a flop with garbage aces here. AAQ4 really doesn't have a lot going for it, and any 10% edge preflop is going to vanish postflop if you 3 bet your hand from the small blind.

BB and BTN might be smart enough to realise you're fishing for a 4 bet from the fish, and if they do, they might just fold to your min reraise. However they might also just call and pray that reraise doesn't come since if a flop hits, your hand may be a lot narrower to them.

On the flop, i'm worried about BTN here and one way to play would be to bet half pot and pray for CO to raise. If that doesn't happen then we can wait for a blank turn card before trying to apply some pressure to the BTN to fold.

As played however, yes you are correct, you have to shove the turn.

Let's say 50% of the time CO has a flush draw and 40% of the time CO has a straight draw when he calls the flop.

This means on the turn we are ahead 80/20 50% of the time and we are behind 80/20 40% of the time with the other 10% being ahead 95%-100%.

Giving a free card (or even folding!) to people with flush draws would be worse than shoving into people with straight draws who just completed.

You were right to shove the turn, there is no other play even though one of the 2 obvious draws completed.