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PLO 25 - NFD+overpair 4-way in single raised pot

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TerrorBlade
Joined: 16.10.2007

The BU is a limpy sort of non-passive player on 40/9, BB is a 22/18 TAG after 50 hands and MP is totally unknown. UTG plays 80% of his hands.

I thought preflop was close between a raise and an overlimp but given that this would be 4-way and even 5-way reasonably often I went for the lower variance play, maybe I sacrificed some EV just limping here..

Anyway my thought process started out like this:

If I raise MPs donk I can kick out hands with equity against me-> if I raise him I isolate myself against the strongest parts of his range as a slight favourite or a moderate dog -> My made hand component isn't that strong so maybe I should pretend I just have the NFD here and get it in on a turn that improves me.

When the raise wars starts and it comes back to me I think "well yeah, I've got 10 outs to the nuts and some backdoor straight potential, if guy behind me goes with it as well the pot is going to be huge."

I feel once everyone is going with it I probably can't fold but what about my first flop decision?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP ($11.46)
Hero (CO) ($25)
Button ($19.87)
SB ($25)
BB ($26.08)
UTG ($25.75)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, A, Q, Q
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, Button bets $1.50, 1 fold, BB calls $1.25, 1 fold, MP calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($6.35) J, 4, 5 (4 players)
BB checks, MP bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, Button calls $1.75, BB raises to $14.79, MP calls $8.21 (All-In), Hero raises to $23.50 (All-In), 1 fold, BB calls $8.71

Turn: ($65.06) 9 (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($65.06) 10 (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $65.06 | Rake: $2


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

I'd definitely raise preflop to $1. Try to buy the button, plus get some value out of the limpers. Doesn't have to be a pot raise.

Flop: I play it the same way. You really want this hand to stay multiway, each person who comes into the pot only adds to the value of your hand. Heads up you have 10 outs, maybe 12. Multiway you still have a guaranteed 10 outs but the pot is so much bigger.

I don't want hands behind me to fold and I also want them to think they can raise me off the pot, so calling the donk bet is absolutely fine. I really want someone to squeeze here and calling is the best way to end up with a multiway shove on the flop.


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