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JHTAN
Joined: 10.07.2010

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NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
SB ($2.62)
BB ($8)
UTG ($8.36)
Hero ($12.32)
BTN ($10.67)

Dealt to Hero 8♣ 8♦

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, BB calls $0.20

FLOP ($0.65) 4♦ 2♦ 9♠

BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

TURN ($1.45) 4♦ 2♦ 9♠ 6♣

BB bets $0.60, Hero raises to $1.80, BB folds

Hero shows 8♣ 8♦

Hero wins $2.53

Hello,

BB is unknown with 50/0 (2hands)
do you raise on Turn? if yes, how much you raise?
do we always raise like 3 times the bet or pot size raise?
I see people minraise. do you minraise sometimes?

thanks.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Hello JHTAN,

Well, what do you think you gonna achieve with such a raise? Do you think you gonna make him fold a 9x here? Or do you just want to get value from draws?

Myself I might even consider to take a pot control line here rather than raising while I doubt that we are ever making a better hand to fold here, just getting value from draws.

Best Regards.


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JHTAN
Joined: 10.07.2010

Originally posted by veriz
Hello JHTAN,

Well, what do you think you gonna achieve with such a raise? Do you think you gonna make him fold a 9x here? Or do you just want to get value from draws?

Myself I might even consider to take a pot control line here rather than raising while I doubt that we are ever making a better hand to fold here, just getting value from draws.

Best Regards.

hello veriz,

I raise Turn for free showdown and get value from draws and I block 89. So less combo's for 9x. If I call Turn, I have to fold many River.
what is your plan on the River if you call Turn? call any non- :diamond: card?

thanks.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

I raise Turn for free showdown and get value from draws and I block 89. So less combo's for 9x. If I call Turn, I have to fold many River.

Well, that's no point to count any combos here vs such a loose opponent who might even play sometimes something like 58s.

what is your plan on the River if you call Turn? call any non- card?

Well, why should he even bet there again? Most likely if he doesn't have a very strong hand he wont bet it either. If I am getting very good odds then I might Call non- but most likely I'd plan to fold since 9x is possible and maybe even better hands/overpairs.


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JHTAN
Joined: 10.07.2010

Originally posted by veriz

I raise Turn for free showdown and get value from draws and I block 89. So less combo's for 9x. If I call Turn, I have to fold many River.

Well, that's no point to count any combos here vs such a loose opponent who might even play sometimes something like 58s.

but we have just 2 hands with him. So, how can we assume he is loose opponent?

thanks.


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veriz
Joined: 20.07.2008

Originally posted by JHTAN

Originally posted by veriz

I raise Turn for free showdown and get value from draws and I block 89. So less combo's for 9x. If I call Turn, I have to fold many River.

Well, that's no point to count any combos here vs such a loose opponent who might even play sometimes something like 58s.

but we have just 2 hands with him. So, how can we assume he is loose opponent?

thanks.

According his stack size and right now stats, most likely. Especially when you have only 2 hands then you can't count that many combos either. Plus of course you will never even know which draws he calls.


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