NL100 - Straight monotone/paired v rivershove deep

If BB is a fish the call pre is ok, however if he's a reg it's the same problem as in the AJ hand - you're range is narrow and KJo is even on the bottom of your callingrange there.

As played I don't understand your flopcall at all, you're not even close to getting the odds and I don't think you're implieds are great (only 6 safe outs) - it's a clear fold unless you think you can rebluff him in which case you could 3bet, but I don't like it too much as his range for 3betting is superstrong.

As played on the river if you bet you should make it very small to induce or even b/f respectively c/f if you think he doesn't bluff - his range is exactly {66, QQ, TT, perhaps AA (but unlikely), pure air}.

I won't ask you about the sb call because I already did on the AJ hand.

Do you like the check/raise?

I thought about 4betting the flop since in my mind he had nothing, but I just didn't have the guts to do it. Don't you think his 3bet is smallish given the stack sizes? Anyway I compromised between calling for implieds in case he actually has something and still keeping the option of bluffing him on the turn or river. The 6 safe outs argument is questionable...Do you think he 3bets with flushdraws? It makes most sense to float my check/raise for the implieds.

Btw on the river I have to call $154.50 to win $483. Pot odds: 32%.

I think his 3bet range on the flop unless he has pure air is some kind of FD with OSED or a gutter like KJs, AJs, AKs, J9s type of hands against which your doing really bad and then 66,TT,QQ for his made hands that will stack off here.

If you 5bet the flop you put in almost 100bb and you have to fold your hand to a shove. I think he has a very profitable jam even with any Axcc since you even have to fold such a big part of your range. You have pretty much no made hands that can stack off here, assuming you 3bet TT and QQ most of the time in this spots and with 66 i think its a pretty standard fold after he sticks in 250bbs. If he thinks about your range even a little he can figure out that you have pretty much no made hands on this flop that can stand a shove.

Imo its also an easy fold pre against a good reg, and if you call then either c/c or d/c the flop being so deep and you dont get yourself in such an ugly spot.

The river is imo a fold. Very few regs have the balls to shove 2BI's on the river as a bluff and your looking at TT, QQ here most of the time.

Originally posted by MatejM47
I think his 3bet range on the flop unless he has pure air is some kind of FD with OSED or a gutter like KJs, AJs, AKs, J9s type of hands against which your doing really bad and then 66,TT,QQ for his made hands that will stack off here.

If you 5bet the flop you put in almost 100bb and you have to fold your hand to a shove. I think he has a very profitable jam even with any Axcc since you even have to fold such a big part of your range. You have pretty much no made hands that can stack off here, assuming you 3bet TT and QQ most of the time in this spots and with 66 i think its a pretty standard fold after he sticks in 250bbs. If he thinks about your range even a little he can figure out that you have pretty much no made hands on this flop that can stand a shove.

Imo its also an easy fold pre against a good reg, and if you call then either c/c or d/c the flop being so deep and you dont get yourself in such an ugly spot.

The river is imo a fold. Very few regs have the balls to shove 2BI's on the river as a bluff and your looking at TT, QQ here most of the time.

Pre-flop I still have some doubts. What's your "standard" range to call or 3-bet in the SB?

What do you make of his small 3-bet on the flop?

Btw how would you play 66 and TT in this spot?

Player 1: 66.232 QQ, TT, 66, AcKc, AcJc, KcJc, Kc9c, Jc9c, 9c8c
Player 2: 33.768 66

Thats what i think his stack off range 250bb deep is and with 66 you only have 33% and even that range is kinda optimistic. Its really tought to play it oop. Lead call is probably best

With TT you got middle set and if he stacks off with 66 then your fine stacking off with 57%.

There's a few reason why you can't call a hand like that out of the SB. First you can get squeezed in this spot by the BB in which case you have to fold. When you call your playing the whole hand oop against bu and probably BB whose getting good odds and is closing the action.

A hand like KJo really doesn't flop many draws for semi-bluffing spots post flop. If the flop comes K22 he will 3barrel with KQ and AK and he will check back his K5o unless his paired his kicker so your never getting paid on the big river bet when your good and your always losing to his river bet when your not good. Its the same thing with AJ. Most people with check back weak TP on the flop to induce bluffs and pot control.

There is simply no way you can make money against a good reg playing with out initiative OOP.

My standard calling range SB vs BU is 66+ and suited brodways. That is if the BU is a good reg with out any leaks i know of and can exploit postflop. If you know he fold to a CR 80% of the time then call and c/r bluff him every time or if he doesnt fold at all then you can setmine with 22-66.

3betting is really opponent dependant. Some people fold like 80% on the BU, others dont like to fold at all and are down to 30-40% even. Its good to have stats by position on your pop-ups.

If they don't fold then hands like Kjs+, Aj+ 99+ do really well against them since they're calling hands like and PP and Axs.

If they fold a lot either preflop or on the flop then your cards really dont matter that much. I still like to have suited cards and somewhat connected.

If they 4-bet more then 3% then using hands like A5s with a plan to shove over thair 4bet is a valid option.

Originally posted by MatejM47
Player 1: 66.232 QQ, TT, 66, AcKc, AcJc, KcJc, Kc9c, Jc9c, 9c8c
Player 2: 33.768 66

Thats what i think his stack off range 250bb deep is and with 66 you only have 33% and even that range is kinda optimistic. Its really tought to play it oop. Lead call is probably best

With TT you got middle set and if he stacks off with 66 then your fine stacking off with 57%.

There's a few reason why you can't call a hand like that out of the SB. First you can get squeezed in this spot by the BB in which case you have to fold. When you call your playing the whole hand oop against bu and probably BB whose getting good odds and is closing the action.

A hand like KJo really doesn't flop many draws for semi-bluffing spots post flop. If the flop comes K22 he will 3barrel with KQ and AK and he will check back his K5o unless his paired his kicker so your never getting paid on the big river bet when your good and your always losing to his river bet when your not good. Its the same thing with AJ. Most people with check back weak TP on the flop to induce bluffs and pot control.

There is simply no way you can make money against a good reg playing with out initiative OOP.

My standard calling range SB vs BU is 66+ and suited brodways. That is if the BU is a good reg with out any leaks i know of and can exploit postflop. If you know he fold to a CR 80% of the time then call and c/r bluff him every time or if he doesnt fold at all then you can setmine with 22-66.

3betting is really opponent dependant. Some people fold like 80% on the BU, others dont like to fold at all and are down to 30-40% even. Its good to have stats by position on your pop-ups.

If they don't fold then hands like Kjs+, Aj+ 99+ do really well against them since they're calling hands like and PP and Axs.

If they fold a lot either preflop or on the flop then your cards really dont matter that much. I still like to have suited cards and somewhat connected.

If they 4-bet more then 3% then using hands like A5s with a plan to shove over thair 4bet is a valid option.

I guess this covers pretty much all questions and I agree with everything you said except the part I marked bold.

A good reg will put you exactly on the range you described and therefore make your life very difficult as your range is face up and weighted towards broadway hands so much.

Anyway I suspected the small 3-bet on the flop and stuck to my read.

Hero ($241)
BB ($103)
UTG ($100)
CO ($98.50)
BTN ($303)

Dealt to Hero J♦ K♥

fold, fold, BTN raises to $2.50, Hero calls $2, fold

FLOP ($6) 6♣ T♠ Q♣

Hero checks, BTN bets $4, Hero raises to $14, BTN raises to $36, Hero calls $22

TURN ($78) 6♣ T♠ Q♣ A♣

Hero checks, BTN checks

RIVER ($78) 6♣ T♠ Q♣ A♣ 6♦

Hero bets $48, BTN raises to $265 (AI), Hero calls $155 (AI)

BTN shows J♠ A♥
(Pre 75%, Flop 72.7%, Turn 3.4%)

Hero shows J♦ K♥
(Pre 25%, Flop 27.3%, Turn 96.6%)

Hero wins $482

Btw I think this an almost perfect bluff since his value range completely destroys mine so I should fold 100%.
However I guess the 3-bet size on the flop sort of gives it away.

He sure has balls though ♦