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NL100 - JJ 3rd pair v missed cbet

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SB ($62.45)
BB ($36)
UTG ($125)
UTG+1 ($136)
Hero ($147)
BTN ($81)

Dealt to Hero J♠ J♣

fold, UTG+1 raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($8.50) Q♣ K♥ Q♠

UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $5.50, UTG+1 calls $5.50

TURN ($19.50) Q♣ K♥ Q♠ 4♠

UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($19.50) Q♣ K♥ Q♠ 4♠ 3♥

UTG+1 bets $11.50, Hero folds

UTG+1 wins $18.55

Villain 29/23 (332)
open raise mp - 29% (49)
cbet - 29%
fold to cbet - 83%
Notes:
PFR check/fold all the time
fit or fold
ai 99 35bb
crstip KQs

Well played?


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what are u betting for otf?


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MatejM47
Joined: 21.01.2010

If his only cbetting 29% then he has to be c/c or c/r made hands. I agree the flop bet is just clicking buttonz.


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Well...I wouldn't bet in a "normal" case. But simply this guy had check/folded about 5 hands in a row.


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MatejM47
Joined: 21.01.2010

Originally posted by ShadowCasino
Well...I wouldn't bet in a "normal" case. But simply this guy had check/folded about 5 hands in a row.

Yeah but you dont really want a fold when he has 67s or 22 that might stab the turn or river after you check twice. An under pair might also call a river bet after you check backed twice.

There also isnt that much to protect against. Ax has 6 outs, undercards are drawing dead and low PP only has 2 outs on you. I just think there's more value checking back then betting as an equity steal in this spot.


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Originally posted by MatejM47

Originally posted by ShadowCasino
Well...I wouldn't bet in a "normal" case. But simply this guy had check/folded about 5 hands in a row.

Yeah but you dont really want a fold when he has 67s or 22 that might stab the turn or river after you check twice. An under pair might also call a river bet after you check backed twice.

There also isnt that much to protect against. Ax has 6 outs, undercards are drawing dead and low PP only has 2 outs on you. I just think there's more value checking back then betting as an equity steal in this spot.

Yeah I guess you're right. As played can I call the river? In what range do put him?


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MatejM47
Joined: 21.01.2010

I think you have to fold. Your blocking AJ JT that might call you on the flop and with a cbet that low he has to be c/c weak TP type of hands and probably slowplaying KQ,KK,QQ as well since if he has the nuts there really isnt much you can call with. I really dont see many hands in his flop check calling range that you beat.


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His hand is face up to Kx. just fold and don't bet the flop next time. only other option is to raise but we need solid image and slowplayed AK,Qx,KK,AA in our range for that to work.


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Don't you think he can have pocket pairs 88-TT when he check/calls?


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Originally posted by ShadowCasino
Don't you think he can have pocket pairs 88-TT when he check/calls?

He sure could, but then whats he betting the river for? Try and push you off of K or Q? Unlike most people here I dont mind flop bet, because you may still get called by lower pairs, or A10/AJ. But river is a fold imo


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Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Agree with everything that was said:
- check back flop for the reasons mentioned above
- as played fold river as he's rarely betting a worse hand.


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Ok :f_cool:


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