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$3 shove over UTG limper

 
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inlovewithamsterdam
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14.02.2012, 20:12

can what SB did ever be profitable? UTG is a clear fish 35/15 Af=1.0, limp=33, 21 hands.

how many % of his range does the fish have to limp/fold for it to be +EV?

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NL Holdem $200(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,720)
BB ($2,770)
UTG ($1,360)
UTG+1 ($1,910)
UTG+2 ($3,590)
Hero ($4,510)
CO ($1,780)
BTN ($2,360)

Dealt to Hero 4♥ 3♦

UTG calls $200, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $1,720 (AI), fold, UTG calls $1,160 (AI)

FLOP ($2,920) J♦ J♣ 5♥

TURN ($2,920) J♦ J♣ 5♥ 9♦

RIVER ($2,920) J♦ J♣ 5♥ 9♦ 6♥

SB shows 3♥ A♦
(Pre 29%, Flop 15.8%, Turn 6.8%)

UTG shows T♦ T♠
(Pre 71%, Flop 84.2%, Turn 93.2%)

UTG wins $2,920


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masfe
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15.02.2012, 14:12

i like it against a guy with a decent gap between his vpip and pfr, which is the case. i do it with hands like 56s too


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MilanBurdych
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15.02.2012, 16:02

Might be plus in chips but not in dollars. I dont like it, it isnt a good hand to do it with...


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16.02.2012, 14:00

This is perfect opponent to shove over wider than ussuall.
Sure he can trap once in while, but overall it should be a good shove.
Below you can see that we didn't exclude his trapping range, this is BE point with vpip from that small sample indeed.

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p.s. Since i'm often criticized for not shoving over limpers wide enough, if captain Kurrk by any chance sees this post (if Akra didn't suck out last bit of his energy in Munster :) ) it would be nice of him to comment.


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inlovewithamsterdam
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16.02.2012, 14:06

Originally posted by Gerovit
This is perfect opponent to shove over wider than ussuall.
Sure he can trap once in while, but overall it should be a good shove.
Below you can see that we didn't exclude his trapping range, this is BE point with vpip from that small sample indeed.

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p.s. Since i'm often criticized for not shoving over limpers wide enough, if captain Kurrk by any chance sees this post (if Akra didn't suck out last bit of his energy in Munster :) ) it would be nice of him to comment.

that's awesome cheers


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chenny8888
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17.02.2012, 12:52

Hi all,

I'd fold here in SB's shoes. I'm generally more cautious around the 7bb stacks as opposed to the 10bb stacks as they're generally less prone to play the more speculative hands, and also I'm more careful around UTG limpers compared to later position limpers.


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