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[Closed] .25/.50 KK multiway

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hova
Joined: 09.11.2006

0.25/0.50 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K♦, K♥
2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero raises, CO folds, BU calls, SB folds, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.40 SB) T♣, J♠, J♣ (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets, BU calls, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5.70 BB) 3♣ (3 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, BU calls, MP1 folds.

River: (7.70 BB) 3♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, BU bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9.70 BB

I guess the thin valuebet/fold on the turn is standard? c/c or b/f river?


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TerrorBlade
Joined: 16.10.2007

If raised on the turn there are a few draws running round I can't really fold overpair here unless he is a particularly passive opponent so I'd calldown a turn raise and if not raised I'd probably bet/fold river.


Yoghi
Joined: 10.09.2007

Nice hand.

It's not a thin valuebet on the turn, the 3 only completes the flushdraw but he could have a lower pocket pair, a straightdraw or a T aswell. If you get raised here I would calldown aswell.

You have to bet the river again, you are still ahead against pocket pairs, draws and a T. He will only bet the busted draws most likely because he wants to see a showdown with the rest. Then c/c is good. But because you miss too much value against worse hands that will call a bet you have to bet here.

If he has a draw 50% and a T/pp 50% of the time aswell.
He bets his draw 50%, you will win .5*.5 = 0.25BB on average against a draw when you check.
He checks his pp/T behind, so you win 0BB against a made hand.
On average when you check you will win 0.25BB

When you bet he will fold his draws and call his made hands
You bet he folds his draws, you will win 0BB
You bet he calls his made hands 100%, you will win 1*0.5 = 0.5BB
So buy betting you will win 0.5BB on average.

It's important that you understand such concepts, even though this is a very simple calculation you have to see it this way.


Your calculation is really very simple because you forgot the times you are behind but where you have to call. The 3 completes nothing so there is no chance to fold.
Bet/call would be my line here.