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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

CO ($50)
Button ($45.10)
Hero ($82.45)
BB ($22.25)
UTG ($47.40)
MP ($21.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 6. CO posts a blind of $0.50.
2 folds, CO (poster) raises to $1.5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50.

Flop: ($10.50) 5, Q, J (2 players)
Hero bets $8, CO calls $8.

Turn: ($26.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $17, CO calls $17.

River: ($60.50) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: $60.50

Results in white below:
Hero has As 6s (high card, ace).
CO has Ks Qd (one pair, queens).
Outcome: CO wins $60.50.

The big problem here is the turn. I figured going all-in here would give me callers that have me in very bad shape.

He had been stealing 3 times in a row while he played only 3 orbits, no further stats yet.

I really think I should have checked, and check how big his bet would have been and then calculate the odds.

#2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($59.25)
UTG ($38.35)
Hero ($93.25)
CO ($22.25)
Button ($51.25)
SB ($7.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A.
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $1.75, 4 folds, UTG calls $1.25.

Flop: ($4.25) 3, 2, 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.5, UTG calls $3.50.

Turn: ($11.25) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($11.25) 6 (2 players)
UTG bets $8, Hero calls $8.

Final Pot: $27.25

Results in white below:
UTG has 2c 2h (three of a kind, twos).
Hero has Ad Ac (one pair, aces).
Outcome: UTG wins $27.25.

I thought his range was a small pp or a suited connector because he limp-called.

#3
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (4 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($32.85)
Hero ($56)
Button ($45.45)
SB ($66.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 2, 2.
Hero calls $0.50, 2 folds, BB raises to $2.5, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($5.25) 7, 7, 2 (2 players)
BB bets $4.5, Hero calls $4.50.

Turn: ($14.25) Q (2 players)
BB bets $4.5, Hero calls $4.50.

River: ($23.25) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $21.35 (All-In), Hero calls $21.35.

Final Pot: $65.95

Results in white below:
BB has Qd Qc (full house, queens full of sevens).
Hero has 2d 2s (full house, twos full of sevens).
Outcome: BB wins $65.95.

I should have raised the turn because a heart would normally kill the action?


9 replies

hand 1

i would 3bet to 7$ to get more folds, A6s is not a really good hand to play postflop with OOP in a 3bet pot, and I would CRAI that flop

now, as played

that turn is a complete brick, so he is basically not folding any hand that he called you with on the flop, as that flop may have hit you pretty strongly, plus your turn bet is not that big. (17$ in 27$, you should try another converter, it fucks up every pot size)

you want to try and have a free card so check, and if he bets, you can shove if you think you have FE or you can fold, or call if he bets really small

hand 2

I would go for 3 streets of value here, you need to be betting that K with a strong hand so that you can do it when you have air


#1
What are the guidelines u take in consideration on 3betting then?
I thought 3 times the bet + the pot was the normal guideline.

#2
But I was pretty sure that he has either a second best hand he would not call with on the turn or he has me beat thats why I wanted to play a small pot, and in the end I was right he flopped a set.


#1
I like to 3bet 4x -5x OOP to get more FE and eliminate the advantage of position a bit and 3x-3.5x IP to keep advantage of position and get some fishy calls

#2
its bad to think knowing what the results were, this is not a good argument.
I guess both lines are fine in fact

#3
no: you can't have hearts here, he can't be afraid of them. nh


Actually that's not thinking after knowing the results, if I didnt think like that I would play it more agressively right I have ACESSSSSSSSS there?


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

mmh, first hand i don't like, A6s plays poorly to his 3-bet-call range, especially OOP. i'd at worst 3bet A9s there. as played, postflop is leaky imo, i'd check/reevaluate the turn for sure.

second hand.. checking behind on the turn is OK imo, this is because of his check/call on a very very dry board.. which i find suspicious.

third hand.. you can raise the turn as well. but you don't need to, as he only has a PSB left on the river anyway, so you should be able to get it in regardless.


swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

1 hand per thread please

1) Fold preflop. As played, don't 2nd barrel - he'll call or raise about 120% of the time here.

2) raise to 2.5$ (or 2.25, whatever) - 3.5-4BB + 1/limper. As played, pot control is best

3) UTG limp/call: . Don't, don't and don't. As played, raise flop, since he'll either give up anyway with air, but won't believe you hit such a board and will go broke with overpairs. As played, raise the turn etc


Please bet turn for value on hand #2


swissmoumout
Joined: 24.02.2007

Originally posted by sw0ldo
Please bet turn for value on hand #2

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/no-limit/548/3/

A coach contradicting the articles ? :evil:


Thorsten77
Joined: 28.05.2006

1. I think the raise pre is fine vs. a blind poster. Flop is also fine. Turn, i often play c/r as it gives me either a free card, value from air floats and max. fold equity vs marginal made hands.

2. Easy bet turn. He'll call with a lot of weaker hands here.

3. Raise preflop. postflop nh - your opponent won't put you on a runner runner flush...