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[FR] KQs donk bet the turn

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kipperkalle
Joined: 12.04.2009

Opponents were unknown. Was donk ok in this situation? I just didn't want get check behind and maybe let UTG draw out on me. I was thinking getting raised here was fine - I would have just called it and check-call the river. Looking back, the board is extremely dry, so I dunno.

Any thoughts about turn here?

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

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$0.05/$0.1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Hero is UTG2 with K:s, Q:s.
UTG1 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG1 calls.

Flop: (8.4 SB) 2:c, Q:h, 6:s (4 players)
BB checks, UTG1 checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BB folds, UTG1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.2 BB) 2:d (3 players)
UTG1 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, UTG1 folds.

River: (9.2 BB) 5:s (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Final Pot: 11.2 BB.


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firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

If you just call the Flop, you should do this for the reason that you plan to checkraise the turn. Look at this board, at your hand and at your opponents range. Your opponent did coldcall. He could have done this with a lot of worse hands. Pocketpairs. x6 and worse queens. Being aware what hands you're actually ahead against, there are just a few. AQ 22 and 66 but majority of his range consists of worse pairs and worse queens.

So against an unknown i would just 3bet the flop to not take the risk of seing a checkbehind on the turn and most players will pay off with a medium pocketpairs, x6 etc. Turncheckraise looks quite strong on this board, although you might get more from his toppair type of hands. It's questionable, whether 3bet the flop immidiate or call the flop and raise the turn is better.

Donking may induce a calldown from his pocketpair that he may have folded to a checkraise but it looks suspicious and given you would have AJ AT AK etc, you wanna check as well. So you do with your valuehands, to keep being balanced. For the balancing reason if you have a medium hand like Ax or a pocketpair and the fact that you'll get more out of his bluffs and madehands, you should checkraise, once you just called the flop.

Another argument for a turncheckraise is that your relative position is great to trap CO and UTG :)

As a default line, i keep the initiative by 3betting the flop and in case you'll get raised @ the turn, you just proceed passively with a calldown. :)

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