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gusma
Joined: 07.10.2007

Hi guys!

The 3bettor in this hand is a good reg , who plays 10/9 , 7% 3bet .At the time I decided to flat pre because of the third player , who is not good and was very loose and passive. Btw this wasnt my favorite move, I would rather 4bet/fold or just fold the hand.

My thought on the flop , the donkbetor might have loads of stuff here , as pairs , draws , etc.As the reg did not raise the flop I do not think he has JJ+ , neither TT , and probably 77 - 99 and airs. Considering that I belive my best move would be to check/raise for value here, and not just call. What do you think?

No Limit Holdem Tournament
9 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$30+$3

Stacks:
UTG (2,904) 29bb
Hero (UTG+1) (7,439) 74bb
MP1 (4,540) 45bb
MP2 (9,810) 98bb
MP3 (2,010) 20bb
CO (4,840) 48bb
BTN (3,240) 32bb
SB (2,035) 20bb
BB (3,885) 39bb

Blinds: 50/100 Ante 10

Pre-Flop: (240, 9 players) Hero is UTG+1 Q♥ 10:heart:
1 fold, Hero raises to 215, 1 fold, MP2 calls 215, 1 fold, CO raises to 575, 3 folds, Hero calls 360, MP2 calls 360

Flop: 4♣ 2♣ 10:diamond: (1,965, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets 1,000, CO calls 1,000, Hero calls 1,000

Turn: 6♠ (4,965, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO goes all-in 3,255, Hero folds, MP2 folds

Final Pot: 4,965

CO wins 8,220 (net +3,380)

MP2 lost 1,585
Hero lost 1,585


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onetwo78
Joined: 06.07.2010

i think the 77-99 is not in his 3b range here, a good reg want to play with the fish, that's why he should flat with these cards.
I would fold OTF, the donk and the call from reg is stronger than your TP. And I think the reg can have JJ+ here.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

If we call the flop our opponents are going to play very straightforwardly against us on the turn. So call flop fold turn is a very good play.


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PaPi92
Joined: 17.02.2011

I think CO has very rarely weaker hand when he call flop. His SPR is very small, and he can call over pairs.
I would fold pre flop. I think it`s very hard to play the hand profitable vs good reg OOP.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Originally posted by PaPi92
I think CO has very rarely weaker hand when he call flop. His SPR is very small, and he can call over pairs.
I would fold pre flop. I think it`s very hard to play the hand profitable vs good reg OOP.

I'm fine with folding preflop. Though with the extra player in + good odds I don't mind the call either.

CO can easily call overcards vs the donkbet.


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PaPi92
Joined: 17.02.2011

I am not sure how often will he call over cards with this SPR and one more player to act. Maybe sometimes, but not very often.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Originally posted by PaPi92
I am not sure how often will he call over cards with this SPR and one more player to act. Maybe sometimes, but not very often.

Vs a donkbet I like calling in his spot. He's balanced and thus can make good turn decisions based on what the third player does.

FWIW: that's not to say that that's how HE thinks about the spot.


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