Se bogeymnn everyehere

so what is it you want to know ?
I dont think we could do anything either here. so wp i guess ?

Hi!

Preflop argument that you have good position is not correct since SB is pretty bad. That said I still totally like 3bet with this hand especially if he opening very wide which means he is still even more from BU.

Flop is obviously very good for you since your equity is 50%+ so standard cbet is clearly in order.

Turn check is bad. Sure they both called your flop bet but on this board they will call super much. Preflop pot is quite big so on the flop they are getting 1:10 which makes any gutshot,good BDs,Ahigh,overcards,hands like Kc6x... to call at least once... Also fact that CO didnt raise you(from what you are saying I assume he is decently agro) on the flop reduces his % of good made hands(pairs+) a lot....9x,7x or arguably even pockets should raise here
So...bet turn and make them fold those unpaired hands which are all better than yours.Also your equity is still very high with monsterdraw so even if they both have a made hand you are still around 33%(fairshare) but on average you should be at least around 40% imo....betting turn here is mandatory. And on this river you are certainly looking for 3barreling since you as agressor represent that Ax quite well+ pot is big and you want to make those busted draws to fold which are not that few if you look at the board

As played river is funny but I think you should still bet. There are just so many busted draws that even vs 2 players you should be able to make them fold often enough (that would be 1:6) Also to the naked eye your hand looks like some Ahigh hand which raised preflop,cbet flop then checked turn because it was scared. Another point... since they both check river Ax,7x should be very reduced,so you are looking at 9x(which got reduced on the flop),pockets(these are reasonable but you may even have some % of FE against them) and Khigh(these are also quite likely but since its 3way you have a lot of FE against them)

All in all... if you plan on 3betting for deception with hands like this you are obliged to make bluffs postflop,otherwise its preffered to stick to ABC game and fold preflop. Here you even pick up a monster draw and if there is any hand that can 3barrell as bluff it should be this one.

@Avataren

[This is before the post of Dawnfall appearing now]

Should I have bet the turn and/or the river?

/johan =m

without having read dawns post. I would say i would bet the turn about 60 % of the times this situation comes up. but that turn I don't think will give you any more % chance he would fold its a pretty safe turn to call again with Ax or a pair of 3s or fd.

edit: ignore everything i wrote above as i obviously must have been tired i completely overlooked that you had a FD+OE. BEt again obviously! on the turn and I would personally check the river. but i see Dawns reason for betting river. I just dont think we will ever get both to fold on 10/20c maybe 1 out of 12 times which is more likely than 1 in 6 as dawn suggests.

I would say that this is typical misconception that on microstakes you will never get them both to fold. That is soooo not true. Sure bad players call when they shouldnt but they also fold when they shouldnt.

This hand is a pretty good example of what I am saying. But to make it more interesting lets make our draw much weaker(since here we are almost betting for value)..lets say we have just SD... or even some weak gutshot like 54s.
This would still be an obvious bet for me on the turn. Even if you say they will never fold Ahigh or better there are just soooooooo many combos of draws,Qx,Kx or whatever hands that they will have.

...Also Im pretty sure that if BB has just Ahigh on turn he will always call.People do make folds especially when you look so strong and there are players behind...
....and last but not least fact that they have so many unpaired hands make your outs even better since now even 5 or 4 has reasonble chance to make you the best hand so if you just c/f turn you can easily be throwing away 10 outer which is pretty bad,but if you c/c then just betting yourself is much better way of investing that bet

River spot like said is interesting but I still totally like to bet. Chance that they both have busted draw is huge and since you have no SD value bluff should work in more than 1:6(15%)...

better players though can actually make plays there since you(a good player) should be betting turn with Ahigh pretty much always there. So how can you bet the river when A doesnt really improve you?!?! bluff?!? Hands that I would assume you have at this point are something like QT,KJ,KQ maybe hands that dont bet turn since they will not make many better hands to fold but on the other hand still have SD value

100% turn bet for value

river play depends on read

Thank you.

Bet again obviously!

So right, and Dawnfall provides the technical details.

Here is another insight I'll take with me:

All in all... if you plan on 3betting for deception with hands like this you are obliged to make bluffs postflop,...

/Johan =

Dude. Flush + OESD has 2-1 odds of completing on the river. It is not a busted draw by the turn. Turn check was bad imo.

River I have no clue, but dawn's play looks good.